Re: [情報] 0.8.6的一些消息 by 謠指部

看板Wargaming (戰艦世界 - WOT)作者 (美由紀)時間13年前 (2013/05/07 10:04), 編輯推噓54(54084)
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目前流出來的未經證實消息 - arty will get a rate of fire nerf of roughly 15-40 percent: GW Panther will (with its top gun) fire once per 31 seconds 所有自走炮射速都會被nerf 15~40%,GW Panther(頂炮)將被砍到31秒 - accuracy and aiming time will be nerfed: Some examples - russian B-4 cannon had 8 sec aiming time and 0.8 accuracy as of the supertest. GW Panther had 0.7 accuracy 瞄準時間和射擊精度一併nerf:舉個例子-祖國B-4將有8秒的瞄準時間和0.8射擊精度 GW Panthe將有0.7的射擊精度 - Aim dispersion on the move and while moving the gun increased by 100% 自走炮移動擴圈將增加100% - Many arties get new stock modules. 許多自走砲都會有新的模塊 - SU-26 loses it's 122mm cannon and gets a new 76mm one. SU-26沒有122mm炮了,會被換成一門新76mm - Most of them get their visibility range and speed nerfed slightly. 大部分自走炮的視野及速度將被nerf - S-51 gun horizontal traverse nerfed from 6 degrees to each side to 4 degrees to each side S-51的射界將從6°被nerf到4° - arty tiers shifted around a lot (they are still experimenting with this, so I wouldn't take this anywhere near granted): 自走砲還有很多被改動的地方(開發組還在測試,很多東西都不保證) -- GW Panther - gets kicked from T6 to T7 從T6移到T7 - top speed limited to 46km/h 極速限制46km/h - stock suspension turnrate reduced from 26 to 24, 2nd suspension turnrate reduced from 28 to 26 車體轉向速度降低2 - gun spread caused by turning increased for both suspensions 車體轉向擴圈增加 - loading time and gun accuracy nerfed 裝填時間和炮精度nerf - stock engine was removed 白板引擎移除 -- Lorraine 155 50 - hitpoints slightly improved hp略為增加 - moved one tier up 提高車等一階 - terrain passability nerfed 履帶適性nerf - gun spread from turning increased 車體轉向擴圈增加 - turnrate improved for both suspensions 轉向速度提高 - ROF nerfed 射速nerf - radios reworked 無限電重做 -- S-51 - speed nerfed (by 2km/h) 速度nerf - more HP 更多HP - moved one tier higher 提高一階 - both suspensions got terrain passability nerfed 履帶地形適性nerf - both suspensions: more gun spread from turning 車體轉向擴圈增加 - followed by SU-14 for 146k XP 從SU-14昇上去要146k XP - gun traverse nerfed from 6 to 4 射界6°被nerf到4° - stock gun now has twice as much ammo and a bit better reload time 白板炮將會有兩倍的彈藥和更快的裝填時間 - B-4 has 25 percent higher reload time, spread and aim time increased (nerfed) by 50 percent B-4 203mm將提高25%裝填時間,擴圈和瞄準時間將提高50% -- US M12 - mover one tier up 提高一階 - maximum speed nerfed 極速被nerf - the suspension spread nerf is apparently planned 縮圈被砍是遲早的事 -- M37 - moved one tier up 提高一階 - agility and mobility buffed 機動性被buff - armor was apparently made historical 裝甲依照歷史 -- M40/43 - guns weren't touched at all 炮沒被動刀 - mobility nerfed a bit 機動性被砍 -- T92 - moved to tier 10 移到T10 - buffed turned rate 履帶轉向增加 - engines were reworked 引擎重做 - maximum speed was nerfed 極速被砍 -- Batchat 155 - moved to tier 10 移到T10 - added new stock suspension 新的白板懸吊 - 2nd suspension had its terrain passability nerfed a bit 第二個懸吊地形適性被nerf - turnrate was buffed 履帶轉向增加 - gun spread from turning was increased by 50 percent 車體轉向擴圈增加50% - viewrange nerfed to 380 視野砍到380 - autoloader reloads 10 seconds longer 自動裝彈時間加長到10秒 - aim time increased by 10 percent 瞄準時間提高10% - new stock engine 新的白板引擎 -- Object 261 - moved to tier 10 移到T10 - speed was not nerfed 速度沒動 - new stock suspension 新白板懸吊 - 2nd suspension has better passability in bad terrain 第二個懸吊地形適性加強 - influence of turning on spread increased by 50 percent 車體轉向擴圈增加50% - hull turn rate buffed to 24 車體轉速buff到24 - view range buffed to 390 視野buff到390 - reload time increased from 29,7 to 35 裝填時間由29.7秒增加35秒 -- GW Tiger - terrain passability slightly buffed 履帶地形適性稍微buff - turnrate buffed by 2 degrees on both suspensions 兩個懸吊轉向都增加兩度 - spread from rotation increased 2 times 車體轉向擴圈增加2倍 - viewrange buffed by 10 meters 視野buff 10米 - 210mm accuracy nerfed by 1/3, reload time nerfed by 20 percent 210mm精度nerf三分之一,裝填時間增加20% 整體來說是SPG的Nerf,為了新加入的SPG車種 以上消息皆尚未證實可信度 純粹只是先放出來的消息 怕的是8.6版把SPG整個都Nerf掉 真的這樣那我們這些SPG玩家都不用玩 準度還下修是怎麼樣....現在SPG的準度就夠血尿... 再繼續Nerf準度恐怕以後玩的都是M了 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 114.32.184.127

05/07 10:06, , 1F
SPG砍這麼多誰要玩
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05/07 10:09, , 2F
Nerf(O) Neft(X)
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※ 編輯: Yijhen0525 來自: 114.32.184.127 (05/07 10:10)

05/07 10:10, , 3F
準度裝彈通通nerf 誰會想玩久久一發 一發不中的車啊
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05/07 10:12, , 4F
以S-51的情形就讓我快玩不下去,一發沒中就要再等38秒
05/07 10:12, 4F

05/07 10:13, , 5F
光是現在的SPG砲準度就夠受了,一定要縮圈到最小
05/07 10:13, 5F

05/07 10:14, , 6F
沒縮圈完成幾乎是必歪砲...真的讓人夠受了
05/07 10:14, 6F

05/07 10:14, , 7F
喜聞樂見 最好把SPG從遊戲中移除
05/07 10:14, 7F

05/07 10:23, , 8F
真慘...不要砍那麼多嘛= =
05/07 10:23, 8F

05/07 10:27, , 9F
我覺得SPG的射擊系統應該要改 改成打坐標而不是自己
05/07 10:27, 9F

05/07 10:27, , 10F
瞄準........
05/07 10:27, 10F

05/07 10:27, , 11F
囧囧 想說升到M12可以體驗快描的說 M41描好慢
05/07 10:27, 11F

05/07 10:28, , 12F
所以要逼人升到M40/43
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05/07 10:28, , 13F
一直被砸得滿頭包~Imba砲車 讓仇恨值下降也好=3=
05/07 10:28, 13F

05/07 10:29, , 14F
可是輕坦看到SPG還是會優先打阿=w=
05/07 10:29, 14F

05/07 10:31, , 15F
我看過Grille跟Hummel準到靠杯...真夠OX的_(:3」∠)_
05/07 10:31, 15F

05/07 10:32, , 16F
倒是GwP被砍不意外 描的快又神準又超廣角
05/07 10:32, 16F

05/07 10:33, , 17F
S-51也是超暴力 但其他我覺得沒必要修這麼多
05/07 10:33, 17F

05/07 10:34, , 18F
目前看下來是速度地形適應性砍比較多 炮砍的都是大刀
05/07 10:34, 18F

05/07 10:41, , 19F
真這樣改下去,以後就重坦世界了XD
05/07 10:41, 19F

05/07 10:42, , 20F
重坦跑得慢很無聊 強勢一點也好
05/07 10:42, 20F

05/07 10:44, , 21F
去吵buff、nerf沒啥意義..重點是新的分房是怎樣
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05/07 10:45, , 22F
GWP6級spg相當於實際8級,改成實際7級,當然會nerf了
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05/07 10:47, , 23F
該來加緊練gwp了...真的被搞到T7很吃虧啊...
05/07 10:47, 23F

05/07 11:11, , 24F
唯一的希望是增加濺射傷害....
05/07 11:11, 24F

05/07 11:15, , 25F
在真正的數據出線之前討論真的很沒意義,但是有個大
05/07 11:15, 25F

05/07 11:15, , 26F
方向是不動的,拉階當然要把傷害調低
05/07 11:15, 26F

05/07 11:16, , 27F
不然一台T7SPG隨手一發一千二其他人全部都不用玩了
05/07 11:16, 27F

05/07 11:17, , 28F
砲車可以送去回收了
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05/07 11:28, , 29F
法國現在的六階SPG建議玩嗎? 剛解出來但之前沒有SPG
05/07 11:28, 29F

05/07 11:28, , 30F
經驗
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05/07 11:40, , 31F
幹譙砲車準的為什麼不先問問自己幹嘛待在原地給人打
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05/07 11:41, , 32F
更何況砲車開到城市地圖根本不能幹嘛
05/07 11:41, 32F

05/07 11:41, , 33F
把砲車nerf掉之後只是讓重坦TD在城市原野都稱霸
05/07 11:41, 33F

05/07 11:45, , 34F
事實上就是會吵的小孩有糖吃
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05/07 11:45, , 35F
T10 MT/TD也是這樣吵出來的
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05/07 11:46, , 36F
當初官方可是斬釘截鐵的說"不可能有T10 MT TD"
05/07 11:46, 36F

05/07 11:57, , 37F
叫這些吵的自己去開一台SPG 說人家可以一發一千二
05/07 11:57, 37F

05/07 11:57, , 38F
卻不知道常常整場就只有那一發1200傷害而已....
05/07 11:57, 38F
還有 60 則推文
05/07 13:04, , 99F
大部分SPG沒裝甲沒高射速 就是拚那一發 厲害的玩家
05/07 13:04, 99F

05/07 13:05, , 100F
增加濺射範圍 容易拿 Bombardier 我會繼續玩!
05/07 13:05, 100F

05/07 13:06, , 101F
又很會躲(有些真的很厲害都打不到) 打了又不一定中
05/07 13:06, 101F

05/07 13:06, , 102F
中了又不一定痛.....然後再等半分鐘....
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05/07 13:09, , 103F
躲SPG本來就遊戲的一環, 地圖都不熟的HT/MT玩家來哭
05/07 13:09, 103F

05/07 13:09, , 104F
說真的我覺得亂沒道理的 SPG比起beta時代已nerf太多
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05/07 13:09, , 105F
要分到同階房我也同意nerf 但可以不要填彈和準度嗎QQ
05/07 13:09, 105F

05/07 13:09, , 106F
走位學好或是自己練一下SPG看看地圖那邊可以躲很難嗎
05/07 13:09, 106F

05/07 13:10, , 107F
這次nerf是為了調階吧 還要塞一些新車進去
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05/07 13:12, , 108F
我個人願意給他砍砲管....但是打不中很想死= =
05/07 13:12, 108F

05/07 13:31, , 109F
105 HEAT是遊戲的一環 不爽不要玩(某圖 XD
05/07 13:31, 109F

05/07 14:07, , 110F
反正以後看到戰線被突破就可以回車庫了,省點時間
05/07 14:07, 110F

05/07 14:07, , 111F
也不錯啦XD
05/07 14:07, 111F

05/07 14:42, , 112F
老實說有些車因為體型跟速度關係真的很不好躲砲車...
05/07 14:42, 112F

05/07 14:43, , 113F
比如開老鼠,E-100或T95,同場有三台T8砲車又是原野地
05/07 14:43, 113F

05/07 14:44, , 114F
圖,真的會一種"死定了"的感覺
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05/07 16:19, , 115F
爽 最好整條SPG線砍掉
05/07 16:19, 115F

05/07 16:24, , 116F
話說我一直不知道"遊戲的一環 不爽不要玩"的原圖在哪
05/07 16:24, 116F

05/07 16:24, , 117F
想看看原文是怎麼寫的
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05/07 16:29, , 118F
等半天結果打土打屋頂根本呵呵
05/07 16:29, 118F

05/07 17:04, , 119F
接下來就是龜龜流的時代了 哈哈哈
05/07 17:04, 119F

05/07 17:06, , 120F
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05/07 17:08, , 121F
我一定要努力存錢讓別人吃我的 152
05/07 17:08, 121F

05/07 17:09, , 122F
T92炮沒說要改 應該還是能幹爆龜狗(上圖)
05/07 17:09, 122F

05/07 22:54, , 123F
開T95囉
05/07 22:54, 123F

05/07 23:53, , 124F
混亂中立XDDD
05/07 23:53, 124F

05/08 00:12, , 125F
lowe圖應該換成T34比較符合現況(?)
05/08 00:12, 125F

05/08 02:15, , 126F
喜聞樂見+1,上帝模式打爽爽已經很IMBA了
05/08 02:15, 126F

05/08 02:19, , 127F
我也有玩SPG,但我覺得這東西太架空了,這種空照射
05/08 02:19, 127F

05/08 02:19, , 128F
樓上還沒搞清楚 你現在會面對的是同等級的 SPG
05/08 02:19, 128F

05/08 02:19, , 129F
不是平均低一階到兩階的 SPG
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05/08 02:20, , 130F
等級重置其實頗為合理只是研發經驗可能會對已經研發
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05/08 02:20, , 131F
的玩家有點不公平 (或是撿到便宜)
05/08 02:20, 131F

05/08 02:21, , 132F
擊是轟炸機才有的啊 而更不用說高階場搞到後來都在
05/08 02:21, 132F

05/08 02:21, , 133F
防砲,感覺很窩囊。
05/08 02:21, 133F

05/08 02:23, , 134F
nerf拉齊階數那就沒什麼差了=w=
05/08 02:23, 134F

05/08 02:25, , 135F
不公平? 德國車玩家表示
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05/08 03:20, , 136F
我寧願玩龜龜世界
05/08 03:20, 136F

05/08 11:58, , 137F
遇到鐵龜陣的時候是不是又要跳出來抗議 ˊ-ˋ?
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05/10 13:40, , 138F
nerf一下比較好,兩台車在我面前被一砲帶走的路過~
05/10 13:40, 138F
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