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[分享] New High End Ascended Gear

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負責 GW2 crafting and items 的遊戲設計師 Linsey Murdock 在官網上發表了一篇介紹新裝備等級Ascended的文章 https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/linsey-murdock-unveils-new-high-end-ascended-gear/?utm_source=client 縮: http://tinyurl.com/atn5vjo 這邊大致翻譯一下(都用第一人稱) Greetings citizens of Tyria! My name is Linsey Murdock. Some of you may remember me as the Guild Wars Live Team Lead before the lovely and talented John Stumme took up the cause so I could work on other projects. As a game designer for Guild Wars 2, I primarily work on crafting and items, which is why I am here to talk to you today about some exciting new features coming up for items progression that my team has been working on. 自我介紹跳過 As we watch Guild Wars 2 mature in its Live environment, we have found that our most dedicated players were achieving their set of Exotic gear and hitting “the Legendary wall.” We designed the process of getting Legendary gear to be a long term goal, but players were ready to start on that path much sooner than we expected and were becoming frustrated with a lack of personal progression. Our desire is to create a game that is more inclusive for hardcore and casual players alike, but we don’t want to overlook the basic need for players to feel like they are progressing and growing even after hitting max level. Adding item progression is a delicate process normally undertaken in an expansion, but we feel it’s important to strive to satisfy the basic needs of our players sooner rather than later. 觀察GW2目前的玩家生態 比較投入的玩家都已經搞到了全套橘裝(Exotic)，並且很多人面臨所謂的"傳武障礙" 其實根據原本的設計，追求傳武應該算是一條長期的道路 但是玩家們踏上這條路的速度超乎我們預期，因為這一步跳太快了，也導致玩家很多挫折 我們的目標是創造一個同時滿足休閒和hardcore玩家的遊戲 但我們也不想忽略玩家們追求不斷提升的渴望 所以呢，雖然加進一個新的道具等級是一步險棋 但這步棋早晚都要下，所以當然越早越好啦 We have always worked hard to create a sense of satisfying progression rather than gear grind and this new item progression initiative is no exception. By adding challenging new combat mechanics to end-game content and ways to mitigate those mechanics through gear progression for high-end players, we can add personal progression without making the game feel like an endless treadmill of gear that is just out of your reach. Original Guild Wars fans may recognize that we took a familiar approach to our new progression. The first end game mechanic we will introduce is Agony, which will be encountered in the Fractals of the Mists dungeon, and is mitigated by Infusions. New Condition: Agony 但是我們一直都很努力讓這遊戲不要變成單純的農裝備遊戲，這次也不例外 而我們的方法就是增加各種挑戰到end-game裡面，緩和裝備逐步的進程 讓玩家不要覺得只是永遠追不到紅蘿蔔的馬兒，GW一代老玩家就會很熟悉這種做法 而這次我們要增加的挑戰就是Agony 這是在新副本the Fractals of the Mists裡會遇到的一種新condition In the upcoming Fractals of the Mists dungeon, we’ll introduce a new monster condition called Agony. This extremely dangerous condition ticks percentages of player health away and can’t be cleansed by normal means. Players who wish to delve deep into the Fractals will find that Agony makes progress increasingly difficult, until they reach the point where some defense against this condition is a must. The only way to mitigate Agony damage is by building up resistance through Infusions, a new type of upgrade component that can be acquired in the Mystic Forge. 這種新的monster condition會讓玩家按比例扣減生命值，不能用一般方式解除 導致在新副本走得越遠難度越高 唯一能夠對抗Agony的方式就是透過新的升級素材Infusions 這種素材可以在熔爐合成 New Upgrades: Infusions Infusions are a special new type of Upgrade Component that can only be slotted into special Infusion slots on gear. There are multiple types of Infusions and Infusion slots. In November, we’ll introduce Offensive, Defensive, and Omni Infusions of Fine rarity from new Mystic Forge recipes. Infusion upgrade types must be paired with their like slot, with the exception of the rare and versatile Omni Infusions which can be slotted into any type of Infusion slot. For now, Infusions slots can only be found in gear of a new rarity type: Ascended. Infusions是一種新的升級素材，只能安裝在有Infusion slot的裝備上 有各種不同類型的Infusions，也有對應類型的Infusion slot 這次改版將開放攻型(Offensive)、受型(Defensive)、和攻受皆可型(Omni) 對應類型的Infusions只能插到對應類型的slot上面，不過攻受皆可型可接受所有配對 目前，只有Ascended這種等級的裝會提供Infusion slot New Rarity Type: Ascended In November we’ll unveil the first Ascended items. This new rarity type falls between Exotic and Legendary on the spectrum of rarity and has slightly higher stats than Exotics. Ascended gear works a little bit differently than other gear types. The stats and functionality normally added to gear through upgrade components are actually built into Ascended items. Instead of upgrade slots, Ascended gear has Infusion slots, and rarer versions of the items also come with additional Agony Resistance built into them. Players will be able to acquire Ascended Rings in the Fractals of the Mists dungeon, and Ascended items worn on the back can be acquired through special Mystic Forge recipes. Ascended是介於Exotic和Legendary之間的道具等級，能力會比Exotics略高 Ascended道具不能用現有的升級素材(例如珠寶)做升級，他會直接內建較高的能力 (也就是說比Exotics略高的意思是比插入寶石後的Exotics略高) 而Ascended道具會提供Infusion slot，比較稀有的Ascended道具甚至內建Agony抗性 新副本可以打到Ascended ring，而熔爐可以合成Ascended back The Future of Items Progression This is just the beginning. In November, we’re only adding the first level of Infusions and Ascended Rings and Back slots, so that leaves us a lot of room to build upon these levels of Item progression in future content. As we release more new end game content in the future, you’ll see more Infusions and Ascended item types being added to the game. Eventually, you’ ll be able to kit yourself out with a full set of Ascended gear and high end Infusions to help give you the edge in end game content. 這只是開始而已，這次改版只會增加Ascended的ring和back 之後還會有很多新玩意，新的end-game內容，新的Infusions和Ascended道具 You’ll also see more Legendary items in the future and an update to our existing Legendary weapons. Legendary items were always intended to be on par with other “best-in-slot” items. So fear not, all existing Legendary weapons, which are currently on par with Exotics, will be upgraded to be on par with Ascended weapons at the same time that we add Ascended weapons to the game. Thus Legendaries will remain “best-in-slot” items. All Legendary items going forward will be of Ascended power. We also have plans to add more fun ways to acquire Legendary precursor items with a more “scavenger hunt” feel than they are acquired currently. The new additions in November are just the start of our item progression initiative. We’re going to add tons of new high-level content to Guild Wars 2 in the future. As we introduce the new high-level content, we’ll also roll out complimentary Ascended and Legendary items (to say nothing of the other rewards you can earn by playing the content). I hope you are all as excited about these new items as I am! 未來也會有新的Legendary道具，以及現存傳武的升級 而且Legendary道具的數值永遠維持頂尖 目前Legendary=Exotics，改版後Legendary=Ascended 未來也會新增一些傳武素材的入手方式，使追求傳武變得比較有趣 ==== 總之就是 新副本會有新condition Agony 新升級道具Infusions會提供Agony抗性 新裝備等級Ascended才能用來插Infusions -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 60.250.65.124
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翻完發現有人翻了耶悲劇
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有翻有推
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感覺這樣看就清楚很多…
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"攻型 受型 攻受皆可型" 這...
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翻譯很腐...
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XD 同人
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你的翻譯詳細超多啊XD
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LF2M雙插頭, now!
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如果Exotic裝 插寶石之後 再加某樣東西 可以升級成Ascende
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你在下棋什麼啦~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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d等級 那引響就還好 重打免談 先Quit再說
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樓上這是唯一可能平息眾怒的方案, 我也希望如此
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重點是加哪樣東西 怎麼取得
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重打就quit而已，很簡單XDD
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都說是為了讓沒事幹的人有progression 總不能一個升級10s
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1g通通搞定 這樣根本來搞笑的
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解個長meta event之類的吧
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不就跟wow裝備制度一樣?裝備滿了也是沒事幹XDD
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如果是要走升級路線的話 我建議"某樣東西"可以從全副本,
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只要不是動不動就100/250lodestone的合成我還能接受= =
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林北就是不想弄裝備 美送啦(惱羞)
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地圖王寶箱,熔爐...等方式取得 這樣就很OK
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要是太好取得=>很白痴沒意義 太難取得=>跟wow一樣機歪
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融爐才是最可怕的!!!!!
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不能插珠寶 珠寶變垃圾XD 其他製造至少還能弄個橘球
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不會太難取得=>過很多改版回來玩發現還是煩得要死
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熔爐取得 如果是固定公式 應該不難吧...
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其實我剛看到這個東西也以為是要解任務把升級成對海怪用
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決戰裝備, 結果....
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沒錯 一開始也以為是樓上說的那樣 絕望了
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就射了
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不管難度如何都有人不滿意，只能說本來無一物，何處惹塵埃
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不要影響遊戲性的遊戲才是最惹人愛
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攻型受型是三小...
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變成這樣真的不是很喜歡....
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等改版再說吧 反正也快了
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改完版 再來罵(讚) 吧xd
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為什麼每次有負面情報就會好幾個盛竹如啦....
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另一面想如果Ascended後不會在增加上去的話 倒也還好
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還有 130 則推文
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"比較稀有的Ascended道具甚至內建Agony抗性"
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A兄沒看到這句嗎XD
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所以很難講多慘
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攻受皆可 XDDDDDDDD
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內建infusion跟要插infusion差在哪?可以多插一個infusion?
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如果紅裝開出來真的只有MF那就沒差 但我想又會有很多人
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嫌這TIER雞肋
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內建抗性跟內建infusion意思不一樣啊 infusion有分攻型
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但是他可能只能威在那個副本裡...不過還是吵一吵保險
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跟受型(?) 而內建抗性我想是指原本就含受型效果 但還是
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infusion要是不照GW以前的邏輯去弄就噴了
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有洞能infusion 這樣不就整個落入裝檢機制了
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現在還比較像劇情限制..以後會不會變裝檢要看設計了
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但這次的紅裝是為了新副本而出的啊 不是主線QQ
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是主線阿，就那個卡卡獸會秒人跟無敵，第一天劇情就是破
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壞獅子拱門(獅們公會表示:...)，第二天尋找對付方法
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然後就是修道院或阿蘇拉發現灌魔可以抵抗卡卡獸，副本開
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這樣第一天就純粹去給卡卡獸殺嗎 好像蠻好笑的
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起，第三天就是玩家把卡卡獸推掉又恢復和平，副本不會關
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劇本當然會給魔王先威一下，不然第一天就擋掉哪算危機XD
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話說大家都很關注那個5p5p3%mf而沒注意到這次patch增加
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了200個新的合成物
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攻受兼可
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然後Anet受不了了，把那個快3000篇的關了，然後要大家看
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blog .... (菸)
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zzz
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...這次的PATCH跟主線沒關係吧 頂多算是特別活動
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我所謂主線是指個人故事 如柴坦或GW1打馬賽特那種
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Ascended是為了新副本而出現 而新副本則是配合活動出現
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看起來Ascended裝沒辦法裝一般寶石,所以基本素質略高 ?
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(或是反過來 總之新副本是一個全新型態的試水溫副本)
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agony是作為condition存在 似乎只有新副本刷到後面才會出現
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他沒裝寶石就比橘裝高了 而infusion則是針對新副本使用
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影響應該還好(? <- 從BWE1 玩到現在還沒有一個角色滿80級
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關注新tier物品是害怕gw2落入巢臼 如果初衷改變 就算多
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反正頂裝與我無關XD
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1000個合成物也是白搭
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.........你的翻譯可不可以正經一點!!!
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這麼複雜
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好複雜
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