[閒聊] 關於Fallout4的謠言

看板RealPlaying (美式 RPG)作者 (COCO)時間10年前 (2015/06/04 15:59), 10年前編輯推噓39(39051)
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https://www.reddit.com/r/Fallout/comments/28v2dn/i_played_fallout_4/ 挑重點翻譯,一些可有可無的句子就跳過不翻 Before you all say: "TROLL!" "LIAR!", etc, you can all can your mouths and ask one of the Bethesda Employees about Me (my username is my name) and they will confirm I worked for Bethesda. I am strictly posting this in "Revenge" for them firing me. 我在Bethesda上班過,你們可以向Bethesda詢問求證,我發這篇文章是為了報復 Anyways, I worked at Bethesda Game Studios in Maryland up until last month before I was fired for releasing confidential information (but it was an accident!) and so here I am, sitting unemployed with my 2 kids thanks to those fools. So, I wanted to say: I worked on, and played, Fallout 4. Yes, I did. 我在Bethesda上班直到上個月因為不小心洩漏一些資訊而被開除 (這篇文章發表日期在2014/7) 我參與並且玩過FO4 I want to confirm that the recent leaks about Fallout 4 are true. In Fallout 4, you are in Boston, and it takes place in the year 2287, exactly 10 years after Fallout 3. In Fallout 4, mixing things up, we are making the game more "Story Based" and the player character will finally talk, and narrate his storyline. 先前關於FO4的洩漏消息是真的,FO4地點在波士頓,時間是2287,發生在FO3之後10年, FO4著重於劇情故事上,而且主角終於會講話了。 At the beginning of the game, you create your character (You can only be a male in the main story), and afterward, you start the game with a blast. After the blast, you awake to see the building you are standing inside blown apart and your wife, Lydia, dead. Robots and Androids are storming the place, killing and kidnapping the people inside. You, known as "The Officer", must escape and get revenge. 遊戲一開始你會創造你的腳色,而且在主線劇情中只能創造男性腳色,你會從一陣爆炸中醒 來,所在的建築已經被炸得零零落落,你的老婆Lydia死了,機器人到處殺人和綁人,主角 必須逃亡並復仇 LOCATION: Fallout 4 is set in and around Boston and the surrounding countryside. The downtown area is entirely controlled by "The Institute", a group of techies and scholars, as well as researchers, who devote their lives to technology. The countryside area is a "Wasteland" with small towns and settlements, as well as vaults here and there. Logan International Airport is taken over by the Brotherhood of steel, who are there trying to control the technology, and are currently waging a war against the institute, as they both have disagreements as to who should be in control of the technology in the area. FO4地點在波士頓,主要被Institute所控制,到處都有vaults,Logan機場被兄弟會佔據 ,兩個勢力都想要掌握科技而對抗打戰 Meanwhile, Vault 79, located outside of Boston, is under the control by "The Railroad", a group of people dedicated to helping Androids escape the institute. 79避難所被Railroad控制,他們幫忙機器人逃脫institute掌控 The map of Fallout 4 is about 3 times the size of Skyrim. The reason for this is to make a much more realistic and interactive world, that players can always find new things, even if they have played it for years after release. 地圖有SKYRIM的3倍大 FACTIONS: 一些FO3就有的組織勢力會出現 ‧The Railroad returns from Fallout 3, where you only had a small glimpse of it during the "Replicated man" quest. In this game, they are a full faction and are much larger. the same as seen in Fallout 3. Instead, a similar BOS to the ones seen in the classic Fallout games as well as Fallout New Vegas make an appearance, only caring about technology, and will obtain it by force if they have to. ‧The Institute returns from Fallout 3, and is headed by a man named Thomas Littleton. They are the primary antagonists of the game, and control most of Boston Downtown. Their patrols in Downtown Boston are the counterpart in this game to the Super Mutants in Downtown DC in Fallout 3. ‧Talon Company also returns, but in a much smaller force. They base operations outside of a bunker located in Downtown Boston. ‧Raiders return too. CREATURES: ‧Super Mutants return, in the same form as the ones from Fallout 3, keeping in line with the "East Coast" mutants. ‧Feral Ghouls return as well. ‧Vicious Dogs return. ‧Feral Cats are new, and exclusively located in one of the vaults. ‧Spore Carriers return from Fallout New Vegas, and are located in sewers. RETURNING CHARACTERS: 一些FO3的腳色會出現 ‧Madison Li returns from Fallout 3. 10 years prior to Fallout 4, she left D.C after the Loss of James and having thought she lost the lone wanderer as well. Having had enough, she left to Boston, as it is home to one of the biggest Scientific facilities. Madison will once again be voiced by Jennifer Massey. ‧Three Dog returns as well, although he is only heard on the radio, and not seen in person. People believe the radio is not actually live, and that it is simply a looped recording. (Based on the fact that you CAN kill him in Fallout 3.) He is voiced by Erik Todd Dellums. ‧Bryan Wilks returns from Fallout 3. Yes, the little boy you saved from Grayditch. He is now 19 years old and is a mercenary, working with Talon Company. He bases his reason as to working with them on "Once someone saved me, and I wanted to be just like them!" He is voiced by Jerry Jewell. ‧Other Fallout 3 characters return as well, but only through save transfer (Detailed below). 還有一些腳色要你匯入FO3存檔才會出現 PLATFORMS: Fallout 4 will be available for a wide range of platforms after launch. The first version that will be released is being developed for Playstation 4, Xbox One and PC. This version uses a brand new engine built from the ground up to take advantage of the power of next gen systems. Absolutely everything is new, and no assets or scrips are being used from Fallout 3/NV or Skyrim. FO4在全平台推出,一開始會在PCXBOXONEPS4上,這版本是用全新引擎打造 Fallout 4 will also be available on Playstation 3 and Xbox 360. This version is also being developed by Bethesda Game Studios, but will release a year after the advanced version. This version runs on the Creation Engine, the same engine that powered Skyrim. This is being done so that PS3/360 users can play the game without problem. Everything will be the same in this version as the advanced version, except for the graphics, gameplay and some additional features. FO4也會在XBOX360PS3上推出,這版本是用SKYRIM引擎打造 Also, Fallout 4 on PS3 and Xbox 360, last I knew, was around 20GB+. This means that it will most definitely require install. Also, players of the PS3/360 version will be pleased to know that Fallout 4 will be able to import your Fallout 3 save, and adapt choices you made from that game for Fallout 4. This means that some additional characters could pop up, depending on if you killed them or not in Fallout 3. Also, some story references from Fallout 3 will be mentioned. Did the BOS save the capitol wasteland? Or did it fall? Did Sarah turn on the purifier and die? Or did the lone wanderer do it? It might get mentioned depending on your choices! 上世代版本就我所知會超過20GB容量,所以必須要安裝才能玩,並且可以匯入FO3存檔, 你先前所做的決定會影響到FO4 DEVELOPERS: Fallout 4 is being developed by Bethesda Game Studios, the same developer behind Fallout 3. GAMEPLAY: Fallout 4 plays similar to Fallout 3 and New Vegas. You can play in Third Person or First Person, or on the PC version, a new "Classic Mode" that will put the game into birds eye view and play similar to the classic Fallout Games. (Although by my experience, it actually looked and played more like the PS2/Xbox Fallout: Brotherhood of steel.) FO4跟之前一樣可以自由切換FPT或TPS,PC版本會多一個經典模式的上帝視角,大概跟FO2一 樣 Unlike Fallout 3 and Fallout New Vegas, you can only play as a man. This is due to the storyline requiring it. However, after the main story is over, you can have a gender change. BGS did not rule out Females for possible standalone DLC, however. 創造腳色只限定男性,這是因為劇情的需要,主線劇情完成之後則可以變性 Additionally, full support for Trophies/Achievements are present on all console versions, and full steamworks support is present for the PC version. PROGRESS: By my estimate, Fallout 4's PS4/XboxOne/PC version is about 40% complete, while the PS3/Xbox360 version is about 15% complete. Both versions are being developed by BGS. 我離開之前遊戲完成度約40%,舊世代版本約15% RELEASE DATE: BGS has a "Roadmap" already planned out for Fallout 4 and a spinoff. I already was informed about it from the studio when I worked there, and I read it. Basically, the roadmap is this: 1.June 2015 - Fallout 4 reveal at E3, trailer only 2.July 2015 - First gameplay trailers 3.August 2015 - More information 4.October 2015 - PS4/Xbox One/PC release 5.November 2015 - First DLC 6.December 2015 - Second DLC, as well as PS3/360 version release 7.January 2016 - Third DLC 8.March 2016 - Forth DLC 9.April 2016 - Fifth and Final DLC 10.June 2016 - Fallout Spinoff revealed, in development by Behaviour Interactive. 11.October 2016 - Fallout Spinoff released for PS4/Xbox One/PC BGS已經有遊戲相關的時程表 2015/6 FO4在E3登場,只會有影片 2015/7 第一個實機影片 2015/8 更多訊息 2015/10 本世代版本發售 2015/11 第一個DLC 2015/12 第二個DLC,舊世代本發售 2016/1 第三個DLC 2016/3 第四個DLC 2016/4 第五個DLC也是最後一個 2016/6 另一個FO遊戲發表,由Behaviour Interactive開發 2016/10 另一個FO發售 PROOF: As I said, ask about me, but don't ask about this. If you do, it will 100% be denied. Bethesda will not comment on rumors. PS. I leaked some of the first Fallout 4 info by accident, and it ended up in the hands of Kotaku. Oops. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 這篇爆料去年出現時應該沒幾個人相信吧,不過隨著前幾天FO4第一支影片出來之後 就發現跟爆料相符地方不少。 像是2015/6月會跟著E3發表影片,主角會開口講話,兄弟會佔領了機場所以影片中搭直升機 出現等等 如果爆料無誤10月發售的話,今年年底遊戲好像有點爆炸的多? -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 1.163.160.81 ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/XBOX/M.1433404281.A.E62.html ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ※ 轉錄者: f16leon (1.163.160.81), 06/04/2015 15:59:46 ※ 編輯: f16leon (1.163.160.81), 06/04/2015 16:01:03

06/04 16:10, , 1F
次世代用新引擎,舊世代用SKRYIM引擎,這個有點...
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06/04 16:10, , 2F
所以要先玩FO3嗎..囧? 還沒買..
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06/04 16:13, , 3F
不用吧XD
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06/04 16:18, , 4F
有點懷疑,一般來講是不會特別寫兩個不同版本的遊戲
06/04 16:18, 4F

06/04 16:18, , 5F
除非新舊引擎只差在版本不同,可運用的資源不同
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06/04 16:19, , 6F
創角那邊如果是真的那還真是有夠雷的
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06/04 16:19, , 7F
有點假,我反而懷疑是借名字栽贓
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06/04 16:23, , 8F
反正就謠言XD,隨便看看
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06/04 16:24, , 9F
分兩個引擎開發,BUG會大爆炸吧
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06/04 16:27, , 10F
上帝視角..是真的話太好了,不過拜託不要是DAI那種..
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06/04 16:29, , 11F
搖鹽就是會鹹 要不要吃就看人惹
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06/04 16:34, , 12F
10月就上市 有點希望是真的
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06/04 16:40, , 13F
有消息後4個月就上市 好像有點猛XD
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06/04 16:41, , 14F
如果不是團隊的話上帝視角其實不知所云 所以這代表!?
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06/04 16:42, , 15F
應該會有個成熟一點的隊友系統吧
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06/04 16:42, , 16F
今年10月發售應該是不可能
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06/04 16:42, , 17F
看了一下FO3好像很不錯 FO3->FONV 這樣的遊玩順序嗎?
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06/04 16:43, , 18F
之前好像有人說玩 FONV 就好
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06/04 16:43, , 19F
玩new vegas就好
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06/04 16:48, , 20F
FO3 FNV故事沒有連貫 看你高興怎樣玩就怎樣玩
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06/04 16:48, , 21F
上帝視角是經典啊XD 然後隊友進入戰鬥後跟豬一樣也是傳統
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06/04 16:50, , 22F
3 跟 nv都玩了幾百小時的玩家表示都很好玩!
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06/04 16:52, , 23F
FO3其實還是滿好玩的,塑造末世的荒誕與氣氛很成功
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06/04 16:54, , 24F
不過比起FO3 FNV的系統有改進過 再回去可能會不習慣
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06/04 16:54, , 25F
特別是對某些玩法來說少了幾種perk會很不方便
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06/04 16:55, , 26F
有時間可以兩個都玩
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06/04 16:55, , 27F
new vegas的特色在各方陣營的勢力消長
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06/04 16:56, , 28F
主角可以主宰他們的生死XD
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06/04 16:56, , 29F
fallout3就沒選擇,千里尋爸記
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06/04 16:59, , 30F
有時間有愛的話兩個都玩也很好 我都沒有 只玩NV
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06/04 17:01, , 31F
這篇乳摸最恐怖的就是下一個spinoff不是找黑曜石
06/04 17:01, 31F

06/04 17:03, , 32F
FALLOUT 3有個小人國,讓我蠻有陰影的
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06/04 17:24, , 33F
fo3場景比較好看 fonv劇情比較有深度
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06/04 17:32, , 34F
蠻多玩家其實是FO3引進門吧 畢竟Fo的老玩家根本不夠支
06/04 17:32, 34F

06/04 17:32, , 35F
撐消費群
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06/04 17:33, , 36F
Fo3就老式B社勇者拯救世界 FNV就比較有老FO味道 看個人
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06/04 17:33, , 37F
我是兩個都玩得很爽
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06/04 17:34, , 38F
跟fnv沒什麼關係的話就再觀望一下啦XD
06/04 17:34, 38F

06/04 17:35, , 39F
對地理不熟 不過波士頓跟華盛頓有那麼近嗎
06/04 17:35, 39F

06/04 18:18, , 40F
開車好像7~8個小時
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06/04 18:22, , 41F
以美國的標準不算遠,畢竟他們地大,8 ~ 10小時差不多,看
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06/04 18:22, , 42F
是自己開車、搭巴士或是火車,飛機好像一小時半左右吧
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06/04 18:54, , 43F
所以FO3什麼時候脫離GFWL啊...
06/04 18:54, 43F

06/04 19:28, , 44F
綁男角有點煩啊
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06/04 19:29, , 45F
還是32bit嗎?
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06/04 19:52, , 46F
GFWL的問題B社一直裝死,應該不會特地更新了,不過steam的
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06/04 19:53, , 47F
FO3討論區置頂那篇有教如何不用GFWL玩遊戲
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06/04 20:12, , 48F
不是把FO3用FNV跑就好了嗎...
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06/04 20:20, , 49F
FO3不是早就沒有GFWL了? Steam 沒給序號了欸
06/04 20:20, 49F

06/04 20:57, , 50F
「我想是這樣啦…這個社會齁…最不缺的就是謠言啦…」
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06/04 20:58, , 51F
綁男角應該很好改,配偶依照創角時決定就好
06/04 20:58, 51F

06/04 21:01, , 52F
應該還在吧,今天的討論串 http://tinyurl.com/p9rvt32
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06/04 21:05, , 53F
完全沒提到黑曜石我絕望了...
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06/04 21:29, , 54F
拔了GFWL卻沒有把成就port進Steam版是蠻可惜的。
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06/04 21:30, , 55F
不過考慮可能因為不想額外花功夫去port到Steamworks也
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06/04 21:30, , 56F
是挺正常。至於謠言...看看就好。
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06/04 21:33, , 57F
那篇應該是說因為拔了GFWL可是沒有Steamwork,所以沒
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06/04 21:34, , 58F
成就,沒遊玩時間等等,希望B社考慮加進去...但我看難
06/04 21:34, 58F

06/04 21:41, , 59F
然後如果這謠言關於玩法的內容是真的我可能會考慮棄坑
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06/04 21:41, , 60F
但希望不要啦,intro劇情有點OX以外其他都還好... XD
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06/04 21:46, , 61F
老婆lydia skyrim那個嗎XD
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06/04 22:19, , 62F
o社自己想不想接也是問題nv700萬套沒拿到任何分紅
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06/04 22:21, , 63F
自己作的永恆之柱兩個月賣40萬套 至少六百萬美金入帳
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06/04 22:27, , 64F
像上面inXile wl2成功40萬套現在就有能力用好的引擎
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06/04 22:28, , 65F

06/04 22:36, , 66F
難說,FNV做完就有傳出他們仍想做新的Fallout遊戲...
06/04 22:36, 66F

06/04 22:37, , 67F
雖然那是兩年前的事情,而事情總是有可能變的...
06/04 22:37, 67F

06/04 22:37, , 68F
還是靜觀其變...至少也要FO4出了之後......
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06/04 22:40, , 69F
沒拿分紅= =
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06/04 22:40, , 70F
白癡才會繼續接
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06/04 22:41, , 71F
inXile戰線會不會太多阿
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06/04 22:41, , 72F
Torment: Tides of Numenera 今年會出吧?
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06/04 22:46, , 73F
沒拿分紅的事情有新聞來源嗎?...沒找到有這件事...
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06/04 22:49, , 74F

06/04 22:49, , 75F
用metacritic、obsidian兩個字去搜尋可以找到更多,蠻多媒
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06/04 22:50, , 76F
體都有報這件事,那時候還引起一陣關於媒體評分對遊戲影響
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06/04 22:50, , 77F
的討論
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06/04 22:53, , 78F
延到明年但inXile這種仰賴K平台方式只能祈禱不要爆死
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06/04 22:55, , 79F
我知道媒體評分對遊戲影響這件事,不過不知道跟O社有關
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06/04 22:56, , 80F
分紅事件最早從mca的推特發出他是O社的擁有者之一
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06/04 22:56, , 81F
但隔年又出現O社想做fallout續作的消息,就感覺奇怪...
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06/04 22:58, , 82F
公不公開問最近採訪o社老闆有人問他metacritic他也說
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06/04 22:59, , 83F
metacritic很有參考價值XD 那時也沒永恆之柱
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06/04 23:00, , 84F
我的看法是:還是很難說,靜觀其變。 :P
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06/04 23:00, , 85F
有也好,沒有也好,沒差。 XD
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06/04 23:01, , 86F
搞不好像NV那樣 4代出幾年突然冒出來^q^
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06/05 01:06, , 87F
主線只能創男角? 唉呀....希望謠言只是謠言(遠目
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06/05 01:40, , 88F
lydia 大家在上古5的第一個老婆
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06/05 01:41, , 89F
我要抗議 我skyrim第一個是muiri...
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06/05 03:01, , 90F
哇靠steam已經開始預購了...
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