[CK3 ] 四維八德對應哪些特質?

看板Paradox (P社)作者Comartin38 (CM)時間11月前 (2023/12/08 14:08)推噓10(10推 0噓 15→)

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四維八德,英文叫"Four Cardinal Principles and Eight Virtues", 其中Virtues就是CK3信仰中會影響角色虔誠的特質, Virtues在天主教對應七美德(當然遊戲設計沒把七個都放進去), 那四維八德就是漢人信仰-目前對應於道教的美德特質了. 首先看四維:禮,義,廉......還有恥 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Cardinal_Principles_and_Eight_Virtues 照英文定義是: 禮: the rites, ritual; originally referring to the major Confucian duties, such as ancestor worship and issues of appropriate behaviour between generations. 對儒教儀式的信守,勉強對應到Zealous? 義: righteousness; refers to both correct conduct, and the rejection of improper behaviour and dishonour. 比較好理解,就是Just. 廉: integrity; refers to always being 'upright' in one's behaviour. 誠信,就是Honest. 恥: shame; refers to the appropriate response one should feel towards inappropriate behaviour; it is considered one of the means by which individuals judge right from wrong. 明辨是非,以遊戲機制來說就是做壞事時會讓壓力暴增的特質, 純就政治方面的惡行,除了Just外,最會讓壓力暴增的特質是Compassionate. 接著看八德:忠孝,仁愛,信義,和平,定義上可以參考VIC3某位鼓動者的演講: "What are China's time-honored virtues? Loyalty and filial piety come first." 這段提到忠與孝,忠很明顯是Loyal,孝可視為只對直系長輩生效的Loyal. "Then we have love," 仁愛應該就是Compassionate了. "faithfulness," 信義差不多是Honest. "and love of peace." 和平的定義要從封臣立場中的主和派來推測, 主和派喜歡的特質是Content,具此特質的君主也不太願意宣戰. 結論粗略對應CK3的特質與四維八德,為: Zealous:禮 Just:義 Honest:廉,信義 Compassionate:恥,仁愛 Loyal:忠孝 Content:和平反過來說: Cynical:無禮(古代含意,無關禮貌) Arbitrary:不義 Deceitful:詐偽 Callous:無恥(Compassionate的反面,惡行最不影響壓力) Disloyal:奸佞 Ambitious:黷武很不幸的是,只有當個無恥不倫的君主才能在中世紀生存, 世世代代信守四維八德的家族,不知有幾個能撐到1453年? -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 1.170.138.161 (臺灣) ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Paradox/M.1702015686.A.881.html

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