Re: [TF2 ] 掉道具更新

看板Steam (線上遊戲平台)作者howar31 (影紫‧歐人)時間16年前 (2010/04/23 14:38)推噓2(2推 0噓 1→)

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※ 引述《EXZ57 (It's me?)》之銘言： : http://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=3727&p=1 : Today we're shipping some significant changes to the item drop system. 今天，我們對「掉東西系統」做了重大的改變 : Previously, we rolled randomly at intervals to see if you got an item drop. : Now we roll to determine when your next item drop will occur. So you're : guaranteed to find items at fairly regular intervals. The bulk of drop : complaints we've received in the past have been from players having unlucky : streaks, where they didn't find any items for weeks. That won't be possible : now. 先前的系統是在固定的時間會掉東西，而不一定每個玩家都會拿到，系統會隨機決定誰在這次掉東西時可以撿到東西。現在系統不這麼做了，現在系統會決定每個玩家下次撿到物品是什麼時候，也就是每個玩家下次撿到東西的時間都會被事先決定，時間到了一定會撿到東西。根據玩家的回報，有些玩家真的很衰，連續好幾次固定時間掉東西都沒撿到，甚至一整個星期都沒撿到東西，現在系統修正以後，不會再發生這種事了。 : We've significantly increased the rate at which item drops occur, compared to : the previous average interval. 跟先前比較起來，我們大幅增加了物品掉落機率。 : There's now a maximum amount of playtime per week in which you get item : drops. Playing beyond that amount won't find any more items. The amount : varies, but if you play an hour or so a day you're good. Some of your unused : time will rollover to the following week, so if you're an intermittent player : you'll also be fine. 現在開始，每個玩家在每個星期的遊戲時數有一個上限值，在上限值範圍內是有機會撿到東西，而超過這個時數的上限值，這星期就不會再撿到任何東西了。這個上限值是不定的，如果你這星期只完了幾個小時或一天這樣，那你這星期沒有使用的時數會累積到下星期使用，所以如果你不是天天都在玩TF2也沒有關係:) : What are the net effects of these changes? Here's the quick summary: 到底這些改變有什麼影響呢？以下總結: : If you're an idler, you're going to find fewer items than you were prior to : this change. Sorry. On the bright side, there's less reason to idle, because : it won't earn more than players who are playing regularly. 這次修改以後，如果你是掛機，你會更難撿到東西。我們對此感到抱歉，不過換個角度想，這樣玩家就比較不會掛機，因為掛機比那些正常遊戲的玩家更難撿到物品。 : Everyone else will find items more frequently, and with greater regularity. 其他人會更容易撿到物品。 : We're still thinking about how to allow you to influence your drops. When we : see discussions on the forums, people often ask why we don't tie it to some : in-game performance (like your scoreboard position, or number of kills, etc). : Many players understand that if we did this, idle servers would simply change : into servers running plugins that generate those in-game events frequently : (as we saw in the Soldier & Demoman WAR!). 我們還在研究要怎麼樣才能根據玩家的表現來影響掉落物品的機率，因此我們跑去論壇看，有些玩家問說：「為什麼不乾脆根據玩家遊戲表現來決定掉落物品機率？(例如你的排名位置、殺敵數等等)」大部分玩家都知道，如果我們真的這樣做了，那些所謂的掛機伺服器就會去裝一些插件讓那些條件發生(就如同Soldier & Demoman WAR!那時看到的一樣) (我想就是說產生一些Bot、或是特殊地圖，讓掛機玩家可以很輕鬆的提高分數這樣) : There's another side of it that we care about just as much, which is the : message it would send to all the players who don't want to idle. Any in-game : performance metric we chose would result in there being specific maps, : classes, tactics, and so on that resulted in more drops. We really don't want : that to happen. When it's simply playtime, you're free to play the game : however you like. If you love Payload, you can play Payload maps without : worrying about whether you're earning less drops than the guys playing Arena : maps. Community mapmakers don't have to worry about whether their maps earn : item drops fast enough. Similarly, server operators can configure their : servers however they like, without worrying about reducing the rate at which : their players are earning drops. In short, while it's far from perfect, not : tying to in-game performance is a lot less poisonous to your minute-to-minute : game experience. 另一方面，對於不想掛機的玩家我們有考慮到一些事情，任何依據遊戲內表現來決定掉落機率的這種設定，都會出現「為了讓掉落率提高」的特殊地圖、職業、戰術等等，我們真的很不希望這種事情發生，如果是根據遊戲時間來決定的話，玩家就不用想那麼多只要玩的高興就好，例如你愛Payload，你就可以大方又爽快的瘋狂玩Payload而不用擔心玩 Payload模式撿到的物品會比那些玩Arena的朋友還要少，而Community的地圖創造者也不用擔心他們的地圖掉寶的速率夠不夠高，同樣的，伺服器管理員也可以毫無顧忌的把伺服器設定到最想要又最適合的模式。總而言之，雖然目前還不算完美，但我們絕對不會讓遊戲內的表現影響你對整個遊戲的評價與體驗。 == 總而言之就是Valve在尋找一個絕對公平的掉寶方式希望不管玩家的技術、地圖、職業、模式如何都可以有一樣公平的掉寶機率而目前的掉寶方式是隨機決定你下次撿到物品的時間而不再是以前那種隨機決定這次掉寶你有沒有份這樣 -- 我的網路電子名片簡短易記網址: http://howar31.tk/ 很高興認識你:D -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 114.37.49.70