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Re: [問題] TeSL新賽季只剩星海爭霸二？

看板StarCraft (星海爭霸2 - SC2)作者 (1 2 3 4 疾風炭)時間11年前 (2014/08/28 14:03), 編輯推噓40(41推 1噓 37→)
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: 噓 Witness1129: 跟本捕風捉影，tt老闆是很認真投入電競的，sc2解散 08/28 13:54 : → Witness1129: 跟本沒有關係 08/28 13:54 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22700002 To be honest, Tt eSports is the least professional and most disorganized of all the gaming peripheral companies. I'm only speaking from experience dealing with their North American office, mind you. Their North American office has been a complete mess for several years, they haven't had a stable esports/marketing person (they've had 5 people since 2011 hold the job); and they usually take anyone competent and send them to the global office (Eric). To give some more info and a story - we, CSL were sponsored by Tt eSports in 2011 and renewed the sponsorship in 2012. They had committed 10k for our finals, which was live in Florida with Day9 casting. The reason was they were planning a new product launch around that time, in June, and wanted to put a lot of marketing into promotion of the product in NA, a strategy they haven't really done before (most of their focus has been in Asia, where they're really big). Everything was cool, this was all agreed upon by their NA director at the time. Two weeks before the final, we got notice that 'oh, our product launch date changed so we aren't putting in this budget.' Just like that we lost half our budget for the event, everything (production, casting, had already been paid out of my pocket. We scrambled to figure out a solution and escalated the issue up to their global office and we ended up getting 3k out of them. We ran a fundraiser via TL and ended up raising 5k to cover most of the player flights and it ended up being a fun event, but that was the end of our relationship with Tt eSports. We've worked with Razer since then and they've been very professional and awesome. <3 Razer 真是好認真投入電競阿 要推出產品的時候大方的跟什麼一樣 10k美金合約隨便簽 產品難產就說我們不給錢了 最後給個3k了事坑主辦單位 好認真的投入電競^.< http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22701621 Being the ex-owner of CheckSix Gaming, I can say that Ttesports was close to a year late on their payment for the last 4 months of the contract term. I can back up what Xeris claimed about the NA region. For about 6 months TteSports didn't even have North American staff. They turned over all of their regional employees and had all NA business reverted back to Corporate. 欠了人家一年的錢 真是認真投入電競阿^.<~ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22699649 It's not rude to ask. I'm not a prominent figure in e-Sports and I honestly prefer it that way. But my name is Stephen and I work on the business team at KeSPA. I deal with all the foreign companies, PR, and stream. Since TT esports is a Taiwan based company I have been the person speaking with them for the past 2 weeks to resolve this issue without having to go through other legal channels. I have discussed the contract extensively with TT esports and can guarantee that Prime has done nothing to violate the contract and has always been very quick to send whatever they were asked. 阿說好贊助PRIME的錢勒？ 你要派選手人家就派選手 要合作就合作 現在欠了半年的錢還沒付 KeSPA來要都要不到 官方聲明也沒有 這真是好認真投入電競阿^.<~ ---- 人在做天在看 -- 長久以來，我們將許多地方，與許多時刻視為理所當然。 我們對這個理所當然很冷淡，所以理所當然，終於忍受不了悲傷，逃走消失了。 失去之後，我們才重新注意到，這理所當然。 然而今後，也還會有很多的理所當然，漸漸的消失吧。 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 140.113.28.197 ※ 文章網址: http://www.ptt.cc/bbs/StarCraft/M.1409205816.A.ABE.html
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08/28 14:06, , 1F
真心不懂為什麼TT不出來解決這件事情
08/28 14:06, 1F
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08/28 14:08, , 2F
不是一件 三件
08/28 14:08, 2F
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08/28 14:10, , 3F
比踩踩
08/28 14:10, 3F
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08/28 14:10, , 4F
都是欠錢啊XD
08/28 14:10, 4F
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08/28 14:11, , 5F
JO董?
08/28 14:11, 5F
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08/28 14:11, , 6F
丟臉丟到外國
08/28 14:11, 6F
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08/28 14:11, , 7F
比踩踩是啥@_@?
08/28 14:11, 7F
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08/28 14:15, , 8F
TT不意外阿 從以前的西門事件就知了
08/28 14:15, 8F
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08/28 14:17, , 9F
西門又來救援了
08/28 14:17, 9F
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08/28 14:20, , 10F
你怎麼會這麼專業 QQ
08/28 14:20, 10F
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08/28 14:20, , 11F
又是西門維拉呀
08/28 14:20, 11F
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08/28 14:21, , 12F
LOL盜圖也惹到g社 = =
08/28 14:21, 12F
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08/28 14:21, , 13F
西門那個還算照合約走的 這3個根本.....
08/28 14:21, 13F
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08/28 14:21, , 14F
西門那個其實有點自找的，當時就有人跟他說這合約有
08/28 14:21, 14F
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08/28 14:22, , 15F
問題，那時候的西門根本一臉要飛天甚麼都不聽
08/28 14:22, 15F
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08/28 14:22, , 16F
不過G社也被譏諷為雞舍了lol
08/28 14:22, 16F
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08/28 14:23, , 17F
那個人還不是甚麼路人，是相關人士提供意見的
08/28 14:23, 17F
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08/28 14:24, , 18F
照著合約走就是這樣，只是Tt對我來說並不會比較白
08/28 14:24, 18F
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08/28 14:24, , 19F
別人賺的缽滿盆飽的DNF G社經營到倒店
08/28 14:24, 19F
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08/28 14:25, , 20F
DNF也時機過了，沒甚麼好說，POE要不是現在D3臭掉
08/28 14:25, 20F
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08/28 14:26, , 21F
這進場的時間點也實在太晚了
08/28 14:26, 21F
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08/28 14:26, , 22F
POE似乎評價也不好 LoL連線品質也各種被幹...
08/28 14:26, 22F
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08/28 14:27, , 23F
而且據強者我朋友說現在連web game都沒之前好賺了
08/28 14:27, 23F
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08/28 14:27, , 24F
G社至少還是澀柿子 其他橘子皮 I dare you!
08/28 14:27, 24F
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08/28 14:27, , 25F
POE缺點和優點都很明顯阿，只是我回頭打D2...
08/28 14:27, 25F
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08/28 14:28, , 26F
現在遊戲消費市場轉到手機遊戲上了吧
08/28 14:28, 26F
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08/28 14:28, , 27F
頁遊巔峰期本來就只有一年，因為隔年就被手遊搶光了..
08/28 14:28, 27F
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08/28 14:30, , 28F
頁遊自找的= = 代理商炒短線 官方帳號 肯花的都跑了
08/28 14:30, 28F
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08/28 14:32, , 29F
其實也不能這樣說，很多國外頁遊一樣死光了，主因還是
08/28 14:32, 29F
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08/28 14:33, , 30F
手機就能玩到類似的東西，誰還用網頁玩
08/28 14:33, 30F
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08/28 14:39, , 31F
如果有簽約的話 應該不會要不到錢
08/28 14:39, 31F
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08/28 14:50, , 32F
其實欠錢我會想到LG...好了 現在IM也解散了QQ
08/28 14:50, 32F
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08/28 15:05, , 33F
KIRA你是柯南喔~XD
08/28 15:05, 33F
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08/28 15:08, , 34F
好像有點強XD
08/28 15:08, 34F
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08/28 15:18, , 35F
全部都是同一個討論串的阿
08/28 15:18, 35F
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08/28 15:18, , 36F
沒做這麼多事情就不會搞得大家一起踩
08/28 15:18, 36F
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08/28 15:31, , 37F
原來tt在亞洲美洲的風評都不好啊
08/28 15:31, 37F
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08/28 15:46, , 38F
不要給阿吉出這麼難的功課~應該要翻很久的字典!
08/28 15:46, 38F
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08/28 15:46, , 39F
好腫
08/28 15:46, 39F
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08/28 15:54, , 40F
阿吉可能顧及老東家情面啦 TT不照合約走都不怕被人告嗎?
08/28 15:54, 40F
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08/28 15:59, , 41F
站在中立的角度看，第一篇很像雷蛇走路工的文啊...
08/28 15:59, 41F
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08/28 16:02, , 42F
他是掛CSL聯盟發言 月餅你確定他們有這麼白目?
08/28 16:02, 42F
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08/28 16:04, , 43F
可以體會阿吉立場 公司對待各部門本來就有可能大小眼
08/28 16:04, 43F
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08/28 16:11, , 44F
如果阿吉都出來坦 代表他對選手應該是不錯的
08/28 16:11, 44F
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08/28 16:15, , 45F
我記得TT對球哥好像不錯~
08/28 16:15, 45F
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08/28 16:19, , 46F
倒不是說白目，但是那篇語氣看起來很輕浮lol
08/28 16:19, 46F
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08/28 16:31, , 47F
我是覺得也還好
08/28 16:31, 47F
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08/28 16:38, , 48F
今天幾點IEM
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08/28 16:39, , 49F
半夜四點
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08/28 16:43, , 50F
好扯
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08/28 16:47, , 51F
Witness1129 是兵農合一曹丞相~阿吉吧!
08/28 16:47, 51F
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08/28 16:52, , 52F
不給prime錢這件事真的很雷
08/28 16:52, 52F
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08/28 17:07, , 53F
哦！是傑哥，好懷念呀(拭淚)
08/28 17:07, 53F
噓
08/28 17:07, , 54F
Tt品質這麼X，連買都不想買！這種事可想而知
08/28 17:07, 54F
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08/28 17:08, , 55F
當初TL上看到這新聞的確很傻眼 要知名度也不是這樣的阿
08/28 17:08, 55F
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08/28 17:31, , 56F
這篇好精彩啊
08/28 17:31, 56F
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08/28 17:54, , 57F
TT黑很久了吧
08/28 17:54, 57F
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08/28 18:47, , 58F
其實今年TWOP上戰隊攤就已經看的出來了，一個默默鐵人盃
08/28 18:47, 58F
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08/28 18:47, , 59F
一個弄戰隊活動，反觀一個根本沒攤(倒是廠商攤擺很大)
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08/28 18:48, , 60F
最靠牆的不說了，賣起行動硬碟還是手機電源了......
08/28 18:48, 60F
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08/28 18:50, , 61F
幸好去的時候都剛好碰到戰隊攤有小活動(簽到華義全戰隊簽名)
08/28 18:50, 61F
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08/28 18:55, , 62F
其實如果論一個行銷觀點來講TT有點像擴張太快結果搞到全輸?
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08/28 19:00, , 63F
生了一堆戰隊然後贊助一堆大選手，回收效益.....有嗎?
08/28 19:00, 63F
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08/28 19:02, , 64F
LOL不說，光靠跑跑不振也是靠選手人氣光環撐到個人賽就不玩
08/28 19:02, 64F
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08/28 19:16, , 65F
還沒個人賽就不玩了喔 樓上忘了台北鷹了..
08/28 19:16, 65F
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08/28 19:41, , 66F
台北鷹XDDD 說到Tt跑跑就想到赫密 印象深刻
08/28 19:41, 66F
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08/28 19:54, , 67F
老黃狗你都沒去 我第三天都找阿喵和賀密簽名了
08/28 19:54, 67F
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08/28 20:42, , 68F
我TWOP前兩天(星海賽事)和鐵人盃第一天都有去啊XDDD
08/28 20:42, 68F
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08/28 20:43, , 69F
而且我連星海選手都沒在要簽名合照了 何況是KR&SF
08/28 20:43, 69F
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08/28 21:23, , 70F
TWOP去買衣服就看到賀密...但一直想不起來是誰
08/28 21:23, 70F
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08/28 22:00, , 71F
TT就是爛阿 可以比橘子爛真不簡單
08/28 22:00, 71F
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08/28 22:10, , 72F
TT就是愛打知名度 然後又愛欠錢 完全沒感到用心做事
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08/28 22:13, , 73F
哪裡有錢往哪跑 沒辦支隊伍了照樣繼續狂賣產品
08/28 22:13, 73F
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08/28 22:13, , 74F
然後產品又很戳
08/28 22:13, 74F
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08/28 22:22, , 75F
TT產品鍵鼠板還有人說不錯用哩
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08/28 22:23, , 76F
說不定有人就覺得好用阿 幹嘛講得很酸一樣-.-
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08/28 23:29, , 77F
我自己有用過的,我是覺得不難用阿@@
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設計得不錯 用料普普 耐用度不太好(現在普遍都下滑)
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踢踢從lol事件就爛到現在,比柑橘爛還真不容易
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