Re: [翻譯] Fnatic Sen 專訪 (05/23)

看板StarCraft (星海爭霸2 - SC2)作者 (第八號惡夢)時間15年前 (2011/05/24 02:05), 編輯推噓8(8017)
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※ 引述《dispatchadv (ArtJobs)》之銘言: : 原文: http://www.fnatic.com/feature/8813/Sen-s-Anwers-to-Your-Questions.html : 翻譯: dispatchadv : ---------------------------- : Q: :2. 另外分析一下 ZvZ 某種二礦戰術的優缺點?(不熟不翻譯) : ---------------------------- 試翻下順便練練英文 原文: Q:in a ZvZ situation what is the strength and limitation of starting with zerglings and double mine? Q:在ZVZ情況下,先狗池後二礦的優點是什麼呢?(附註1) A:The advantage of starting with Zerglings and double mine would be the flexibility. You wont be having any disadvantages in economy even if you areencountered with fast exp Zerg because although you have only 4-8 Zerglings,your opponent still needs to worry whether you have a lot more Zerglings or maybe turned into Baneling around him. 此開局最大的優點就是彈性,雖然你只有4-8條狗,但仍然能夠對抗裸雙開局並且不損經 濟,因為你的對手同時要擔心你會爆出大量的狗還是轉毒暴炸翻他 Therefore even if he went for fast exp, he cannot concentrate fully on catching up with his economy. Thus there are lots of advantages to start with Zerglings and double mines. 所以,就算對手是裸雙開局,他無法完全利用他的經濟(註2),所以用先狗後二礦開局是有很 多優點的 If both you and your opponent use the same tactic, then you two will have to compete on handling or on timing to switch to Roach. You will have to figure out this timing by yourself. 如果你跟你的對手是同樣的開局,那麼你們兩個同時需要去比拼轉蟑螂的時機,你必須 自己多練習試出這個時機 註1.感謝hitsuji611版友的指正,是先狗後二礦 註2.雖然裸雙下去但會害怕對方是暴狗還是毒暴而無法安心的出工兵 ps..複製貼上的英文排版好困難o_O -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 115.43.113.115 ※ 編輯: nightmare08 來自: 115.43.113.115 (05/24 02:08)

05/24 02:36, , 1F
推! 讚!
05/24 02:36, 1F

05/24 02:37, , 2F
05/24 02:37, 2F
※ 編輯: nightmare08 來自: 115.43.113.115 (05/24 02:42)

05/24 02:44, , 3F
我以為Double mine是內雙, Fast expansion是 裸雙欸OAO!!
05/24 02:44, 3F

05/24 02:54, , 4F
mine是礦 所以double mine就是雙礦
05/24 02:54, 4F

05/24 02:55, , 5F
fast exp就是速擴, 所以是裸雙沒錯
05/24 02:55, 5F

05/24 05:53, , 6F
在這篇是這樣沒錯,不過其實fast expansion是速擴張,
05/24 05:53, 6F

05/24 05:54, , 7F
說速其實不一定會多速,
05/24 05:54, 7F

05/24 05:54, , 8F
如果英文講pool first或hatch first會比較精確
05/24 05:54, 8F

05/24 05:54, , 9F
但那是英文發問者的問題 XD XD XD
05/24 05:54, 9F

05/24 05:55, , 10F
又,裸雙對速狗開局,其實有一段時間是裸雙經濟落後,
05/24 05:55, 10F

05/24 05:56, , 11F
double hatch off one base(內雙), double mine不正確
05/24 05:56, 11F

05/24 05:57, , 12F
裸雙有300礦拿去蓋BH,而速狗的這時後是可以補農的啊 @@
05/24 05:57, 12F

05/24 05:57, , 13F
外雙一般就是FE, 但是習慣上裸雙是Hatch first
05/24 05:57, 13F

05/24 05:57, , 14F
FE 也可以是Pool first
05/24 05:57, 14F

05/24 05:59, , 15F
所以才會說裸雙對速狗會沒辦法專心「catch up」,
05/24 05:59, 15F

05/24 05:59, , 16F
而且「wont be having any disadvantages in economy」,
05/24 05:59, 16F

05/24 06:00, , 17F
所以第1題 應該寫pool first(a few lings) into expansion
05/24 06:00, 17F

05/24 06:03, , 18F
啊打錯,是速狗才「wont be having any disadvantages(略)
05/24 06:03, 18F

05/24 06:03, , 19F
又,回應樓樓上
05/24 06:03, 19F

05/24 06:04, , 20F
其實因為英文是寫「starting with double mine」,
05/24 06:04, 20F

05/24 06:05, , 21F
所以要說錯其實也還好吧,但是FE就真的比較模糊 XD
05/24 06:05, 21F

05/24 07:20, , 22F
Fast Expand真的很模糊啊,FE就是「快速擴張」,也就是
05/24 07:20, 22F

05/24 07:21, , 23F
速三礦也可以是Fast Expan的一環,下狗池但是二礦早下,
05/24 07:21, 23F

05/24 07:21, , 24F
也可以是Fast Expand的一環。 總之,這詞很模糊,定義很廣
05/24 07:21, 24F

05/24 13:52, , 25F
有看有推啦!!!!
05/24 13:52, 25F
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