[閒聊] 8355法揚名國際

看板Rubiks (魔術方塊)作者 (大衛郭)時間17年前 (2009/03/06 12:42), 編輯推噓26(2605)
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原文 http://www.speedsolving.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10158 I learned how to solve the cube using the LBL method, but found that 1) the middle layer algorithm is too long and 2) there are 4 complicated algorithms you need to perform multiple times to solve the last layer. I found this 8355 method by Mr. Hsu and I think it is much better. There are only 3 easily memorizable algorithms. I would like to know is this method available in English? Website Video 8 bottom layer Cross on bottom, 3 corners. Total of 8 pieces solved on the bottom. The unsolved corner is the keyhole, keep it at FRD. 3 edges Use keyhole to solve 3 of the 4 middle edges. 5 edges Use keyhole to solve the remaining 5 edges. The last two edges may require you to use algorithm(s). Rotate the middle layer until the unsolved edge is at FR. Rotate the top layer until the unsolved edge is at TR. If the two edges are in the incorrect location need to be swapped, apply algorithm 1: (hold F face with left hand) F'U' FU' F'U' F If the two edges are in the correct location but need to be flipped, apply algorithm 2: (hold F face with left hand) F'U FU' (hold R face with right hand) RU' R You may need to use both algorithms. 5 corners Now the cube is solved except for 5 corners. Hold the cube so that there are 4 unsolved corners on the top face and 1 unsolved corner at FRD. Look at where the corner currently at FRD is supposed to go. Rotate U until the place it is supposed to go is directly above it at FRU. Perform algorithm 3: R'B'RB until FRU is solved. The bottom layer of the cube will be messed up but that doesn't matter. Again look at FRD, turn U layer, and repeat alg. 3 until done! It may be the case that the top layer is done but the bottom layer is messed up. If this happens, repeat alg.3 until all the cube is done except for 2 corners. Rotate the cube until the two unsolved corners are at FRU and FLU. Repeat alg.3 until corner at FRU is done. Perform U'. Again repeat alg.3 until corner at FRU is done. U and you're done! I like this method because it feels more like solving the cube instead of just recalling some formulas. i tried teaching some people and they can generally get it after a few times. (Alg.1&2 take a bit longer.) There are 2 more algorithms you can learn to make it faster. (will post later) 內容大致上是說8355非常好,只需3個簡單的公式即可,原po(felix)貼了許老師的網頁聯結, 不過內容是中文的,他想要知道是否有英文的版本? 不過話雖如此,他還是自己把所知道的8355法用英文敘述了一次。 然後他說他很喜歡8355法勝於一般的LBL方式,felix試著教了幾個人,都一下子就學會了。 原po說若再多背兩個公式,可以讓8355法最後的5變的更快。 後來有兩個人回文,說這種留工作區的方法叫keyhole method,是以前就有的方法。 我覺得keyhole翻譯的還蠻棒的! 許老師,要不要考慮在你的網頁上放上英文版的8355法,應該會很紅! -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 140.122.140.134

03/06 13:19, , 1F
推8355!
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03/06 13:22, , 2F
推8355! 推許老師!
03/06 13:22, 2F

03/06 14:03, , 3F
方塊人推!
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03/06 14:34, , 4F
推8355
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03/06 15:11, , 5F
推8355! 不照顧長ID>"<
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03/06 16:32, , 6F
推8355! 不照顧長ID>"<
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03/06 16:51, , 7F
推8355! 以下照顧長ID ^ ^
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03/06 17:09, , 8F
推8355!雖然我還不會= =+XD
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03/06 17:49, , 9F
推8355!
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03/06 18:13, , 10F
推8355!
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03/06 18:45, , 11F
8355很好很強大!
03/06 18:45, 11F

03/06 19:01, , 12F
推8355!
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03/06 19:12, , 13F
推8355! 樓上幾位對齊嘛
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03/06 19:30, , 14F
推8355! (推齊)
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03/06 20:35, , 15F
我寫論文有空的話,會試著翻譯看看
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03/06 21:04, , 16F
推8355!8355有個姊妹解法http://jeays.net/rubiks.htm
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03/06 21:06, , 17F
->solution#2, 前四個步驟就是 8 3 5, 最後兩個步驟好像類似
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03/06 21:06, , 18F
早期的8355解法(狐小心法)
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03/06 21:16, , 19F
嗯!樓上好像推薦給我看過。無奈英文...
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03/06 21:17, , 20F
我覺得 8355 最好用的,就是在轉 Megaminx 的最後一層時
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03/06 21:56, , 21F
推8355法!
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03/06 22:06, , 22F
用commutator 可以讓角的方向 位置一起解 步數也蠻少的
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03/06 22:06, , 23F
但是在速解時要看很快..而且會有很煩的case 不太值得 XD
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03/06 22:30, , 24F
8355很大 不用錢
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03/06 22:41, , 25F
推! 我Megaminx也用8355
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03/06 22:58, , 26F
Jeays那個不是我推薦的,是在#18eXgQvE找到的
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03/06 23:36, , 27F
8355揚名國際。我教人轉方塊都用8355。
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03/07 21:15, , 28F
推8355..我三階現在還是只會用8355..(死)
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03/07 21:52, , 29F
對阿,已經用8355教會好幾個覺得方塊很難的人了...
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03/07 23:41, , 30F
推8355!
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03/19 12:25, , 31F
有人要寫英文翻譯的嗎XD
03/19 12:25, 31F
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