[情報] Fallout 4: 11 Reasons It’s A Disappoi

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Fallout 4: 11 Reasons It’s A Disappointment 連結: http://whatculture.com/gaming/fallout-4-11-reasons-its-a-disappointment.php Jack Pooley Whether you’ve blasted through the campaign or only just scraped the surface, gamers the world over have now been able to sink a wealth of time into Bethesda’s latest RPG opus, the rapturously-reviewed Fallout 4. That said, the initial afterglow is starting to die down, meaning it’s time to put the adoring fanboyism beyond and take a more critical look at the areas where the game falls down, because for everything FO4 gets right, it also leaves plenty to be desired. From technical issues to lazy corner-cutting, bizarre design choices and elements that feel like a step back from previous Fallout games, there’s plenty of quibbles that prevent the game from being the masterpiece it was so clearly capable of. 11. Those Ridiculous Loading Times In an era where the PS4 and Xbox One are promising smoother, faster load times than ever, Fallout 4 sadly embarrasses them by boasting average load times on consoles of 30-50 seconds in length. Sure, this wouldn’t be a problem if it appeared infrequently, but considering the amount of fast-traveling you’re likely to be doing throughout the game, it can be especially aggravating if you need to quickly travel between several areas, resulting in a number of near-back-to-back loading screens. When other, much better looking games can muster load times of 5-10 seconds, it’s rather aggravating that the game wastes so much player time loading everything in. Yes, it’s widely accepted that Bethesda’s engine is a mess, but is this really acceptable on current-gen tech, let alone a PC (though it admittedly isn’t as bad on PC)? In fairness, fans were made aware of this one a while back, when the initial trailer didn’t even attempt to mask the fact that Fallout 4 just doesn’t look that great. Yes, it’s dripping in atmosphere and has a ton of mood, while the world-building is incredible, but on a basic aesthetic level, the game is fairly ugly. The textures are bland and flat, animations are often jerky and the lip sync is so laughably bad it’s a surprise Bethesda even bothered. While this has been par for the course in pretty much every game the developer has made, it’ s fairly disappointing that they’ve made a game that looks like it could probably be released at the tail-end of the PS3, or at the very most as a launch title for PS4. Graphics absolutely aren’t everything, but they are something, and this is one area where the commitment and attention-to-detail of the world as a whole just isn’t found. FO4 has been slammed even by those who generally love the game for the poor (or sometimes non-existent) manner in which it describes fairly basic gameplay elements. For example, when you’re first able to build settlements and edit the environment around you, the game provides very little information on something as simple as connecting a power generator, all the more infuriating as the player is actually required to do this once in the campaign. Then there’s cracking passwords on computer terminals which again is poorly explained even if players will eventually get the hang of it, it’s possible to go hours without realising there’s an advanced perk system, and you possibly don’t know how to holster your gun or shoot from cover. There’s a lot to be said for keeping in-game prompts and text to a minimum in order to sustain the immersion factor, but it would’ve been cool to know these things right out of the gate… It wouldn’t be a Bethesda game without a ton of glitches, but holy crap, this game is absolutely riddled with them. Be it the infamous “meatspin” glitch which has plagued every 3D Fallout game (pictured above), characters getting snagged on random objects for no reason, dialogue not being subtitled or skipping altogether, the player being teleported across the map, enemies getting flung into the air for no reason or any of the other endless amount of glitches, it’s astounding that they all made it into the final game. While it’s understandably impossible for Bethesda to QA everything, the final product suggests their QA department consisted of a single pot-smoking intern with a severe case of Friday Afternoon Syndrome. Though some players insist they’ve not encountered a single glitch and others are prepared to put up with the jankiness because of the “charm” it infuses into the game, many just expect a AAA game of this stature to be significantly more polished. Compared to, say, Metal Gear Solid V, it’s hot garbage from a presentational perspective. 這算是我看過寫得最全面的FO4 11個令人失望點的評測文了。 其中有些地方覺得作者講的體驗的還蠻深入的, 當然也有我覺得不認同的地方,像第2點我是覺得…, 不提人物模組的話,戶外效果其實算不錯。 有興趣的人可以看看。 不過如果覺得看英文太累了?沒關係。 有人幫忙翻成中文 http://www.gigcasa.com/articles/185078 《輻射4》令人失望的11個地方 == YA~~~~ -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 36.234.115.64 ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/RealPlaying/M.1448281824.A.9E3.html

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YA~~~~
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YO~~~~~
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"人家最討厭fo4你了" "fo4你可要好好負起責任喔"..真麻煩w
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我其實在是查梟雄的技能樹時看到的。
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不過可以打臉FO4就是爽~~~~!!!YA~!!!
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原文有些好像還滿中肯的,但玩遊戲玩到打臉FO4就是爽,只能
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說好可悲啊。
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ˋ(°▽° )乂( °▽°)ˊ
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FO4粉:◢▆▅▄▃-崩╰(〒皿〒)╯潰-▃▄▅▆◣
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花60鎂換來打臉之旅,再說不爽會內心崩潰的
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mod出來惹可以玩第二輪惹 (啊 翻譯積了13個檔案還沒做)
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有人花60鎂喔?真可憐…。中文版才1830(菸)
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原來是你喔 一直抱怨又一直玩 還比一般人更關注FO4的心態是
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60美金跟1830是差多少?一百多塊也在說嘴難怪一千多的遊
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戲不合你意你會到處噴了...
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我覺得比3代跟nv相比有改進的缺點就不用算是失望點
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至少這次進步地方也不少 同伴其實比之前深刻許多 每個同伴
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都有自己的故事 評論裡面沒說到丹斯根本沒玩透吧
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阿遊戲我都買了 結果你讓我看這個?
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蠻多人花60鎂的啊,新台幣看世界嗎?
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好啦好啦 你可以去旁邊玩沙惹
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一直關注糞game真是辛苦你惹
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花60鎂也能讓你拿來說嘴,你有多窮阿 XD
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11/23 21:49, , 24F
t8x終於找到讓自己高潮的方法 大家不要再80他了
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不然他又要跑到ps板去取暖了
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好啦 你爽就好 等MOD多時你再回歸可能會讓你高興
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ㄧ點...? 另外丹斯的任務讓人印象非常深刻
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耶打臉FO4潮爽的
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同意1、3、5,其他倒是還能接受,有些是老問題了
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真的 他說的很多我都同意 但是一開遊戲又是好幾個小時
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過去了 到底為什麼 馬DER
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原來是很窮,我終於能理解了XD
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不過打臉就是爽[問題] Fallout4 潛行疑問 YA~~
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狗蠢算特色吧 XD
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2、7、8、9、11,故事不如FO3和FNV,任務種類少,潛水
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畫面很糟,戰鬥動作生硬,對話簡化選擇都差不多。
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潛行的問題有人在推文回應了
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明明就不是只有我不行,誰臉比較腫?
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故事我覺得比3有創意多了 3根本就只是我靠爸我超強
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還有 874 則推文
還有 4 段內文
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3.perk沒用BUG 4.NPC講話很無聊BUG 5.潛行沒用BUG
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真要抱怨這遊戲的bug跟問題有更多可以抱怨的,絕對不只這些
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6.消音器沒用BUG 7.暗殺沒用BUG 8.伙伴無雙BUG
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你現在的抱怨就真的很淺,淺到別人看不下去,深度一點OK?
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然後針對你的發言做出反駁你又開始閃躲飄,扯東扯西
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最後居然連"我玩的時間都還比你們多"都能拿出來說
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rimu............XDD
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我玩的時間比你還多,BUG
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你繼續噴啊,反正B社也看不到 反而礙到板友看板而已
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你倒不如把BUG整理整理寄給B社還比較有意義zzz
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嗆別人時數有夠好笑 你以為每個人跟你一樣閒喔xdd
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.....這串推文的人是嫌玩遊戲的時間還不夠少歐 XD
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我才53hr
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我倒是沒看到我的粉絲有發什麼文?
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其實大部分人只是比較有自知之明,不敢隨便野人獻曝而已...
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就算要抱怨也抱著詢問的態度,而不是哪裡又bug、FO4哪裡超糞
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這樣。
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像我就在等幾位板上比較有權威和資歷的板友發 真 心得文,玩
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讀取時間和對話bug真的很煩 其他我沒意見
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幾十個小時哪敢發表什麼高見啊。
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#1MKF7SQu (RealPlaying) 文不用多,打臉就好
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我77hrs 贏了XD
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恭喜,你比我的粉絲棒多了
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棒多了當然吧,畢竟你粉絲成功暗殺XDDDD
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你的粉絲成功的暗殺了我家的村民 看來你該讓賢了~
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還好我沒玩過fo3 所以fo4玩得很開心
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我突然想起上次朋友轉貼給我某個噴FO3的,連主屬性都不
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知道幹嘛用的還嫌Very Hard很簡單...
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我很多不確定的東西都不太敢直接說,因為不確定...而且
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我玩84小時大概才逛完整張地圖的1/3(timescale調小就是
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,預設值16的話應該會更少)...主線沒解多少,只看wiki
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而且資訊不全(GECK出以前一定都這樣),根本還沒看到完
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整的全貌。
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缺點早都被人講光了也不需再提...反正老外像某T的也多
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的是,要噴還不欠人噴呢XD。
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至少老外噴手的INT高很高...(?)
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像現在reddit都在討論ㄧ些稀奇古怪的發現
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11/24 23:07, , 951F
可能TES5 太神了 大家要求變高 這樣??
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是 可能fo4真的沒那麼神
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但足以把我從破一半的巫師3拉出來了XD
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