Re: [問題] 明槓後補到花
1.明槓不可解過水,明槓不可自摸
2.暗槓、加槓可解過水(前提是暗(加)槓為非胡之牌)
A.手牌 4445566 下家打4,明槓起來摸56皆不能自摸(不論明槓之後是否補花)
B.手牌 4445566 門前碰111,上家打7,摸1加槓,槓上摸4567,自摸成立
C.手牌 4445566 上家打7,摸4暗槓,槓上摸56,包
D.手牌 5566788 門前碰444,上家打7,摸4加槓,槓上摸7,自摸不算,包
3.暗槓、加槓解過水原因為,暗槓加槓視同捨牌
C不管摸哪張進來都是胡牌(4567),4444566摸5,4444556摸6,4445566摸47
因摸進任一張(4567)再暗槓皆為捨出自摸之牌,所以過水無效
※ 引述《coeric ( )》之銘言:
: 是明槓別人的?還是自己手上明槓上去的?這有差
: (1)明槓別人的牌=>補牌=>花=>補牌=>自摸=========>包,無誤
: 你沒有辦法解釋你手牌有變化,聽14萬,我知道屁股一張是花,一張是1萬
: 這就是有詐賭嫌疑,也就一般人說的,明槓(別人的)不能自摸
: (2)聽14萬,上家打14萬,過水(門前已碰發財)
: 摸發財(眾所皆知),直接往門前槓,摸屁股,槓上自摸1萬=======>包,無誤
: (3)聽14萬,上家打14萬,過水(門前已碰發財)
: 摸發財(無人知道你摸什麼牌進來),放到手中攪一攪
: 明槓門前的發財,摸屁股,槓上自摸1萬=======>准
: 原因:我本來手牌是 2萬+發,摸上3萬,正好聽牌,明槓發財,自摸1萬
: 沒有過水疑慮,因上家打1萬時,我根本來就還沒聽
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※ 編輯: XiaoBaoLa (101.10.50.202), 09/22/2016 10:19:26
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