[情報] 牧師新卡 史詩法術 Embrace the Shadow

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來源:http://goo.gl/v5yHyL Embrace the Shadow 牧師 2費 史詩 在這回合中,將你的治療效果轉變成傷害 補一下 Liquid 4天王的評論 Savjz Auchenai effect in a spell! Pretty cool to have as an option, however, for "serious decks" it is hard to see Embrace the Shadow replacing Auchenai Soulpriest. It may also be hard to fit in both. That said, it will be interesting to see if this finds a place. 法術版奧奇奈! 很Cool但是在正規的牧師牌組中難以取代奧奇奈靈魂牧師 應該也很難看到有牌組會放滿兩張 如果有適合這張牌的套牌將會非常有趣 ※簡評:Fun card Neirea This card seems bad with Light of the Naaru gone. If Blizzard adds some more healing spells you could make a combo deck along with Prophet Velen and Flash Heals. This deck could even cut the useless Mindblasts. Basically Velen-Embrace the Shadows-Flash Heal-a new heal spell could be a lot of burst. 在那魯之光退環境之後這張卡跟著變糟 如果BZ能加進更多治療法術 你可以搭配費倫 還有快速治療這些卡來做Combo 這種套牌甚至可以把心靈爆震拿掉 基本上 費倫+Embrace the Shadow+快速治療+新的治療法術 的傷害就很猛了 In control decks, it won't probably see play because this effect isn't worth its mana cost compared to Auchenai Soulpriest. 在控制套牌裡 應該是不會看到這張牌 同樣的效果 你寧願把水晶花在奧奇奈靈魂牧師身上 ※簡評:Combo專用 Sjow Embrace the Shadow is a faster version of Auchenai Soul Priest. It's card disadvantage in the sense that it doesn't give you a 3/5 on the board. On the other hand, it allows you to Circle combo on turn two which could be crucial against a fast Murloc start. Embrace the Shadow算是簡易型的奧奇奈靈魂牧師 缺點就在你無法得到一個3/5的佔場 反之 這張卡讓你在T2就能做出治療之環Combo 能夠嚴重克制快攻魚人這種套牌的開場 I can see this being played as a one off to compliment as an extra Auchenai. 可以預見有人會把這張卡當作額外的奧奇奈靈魂牧師來放入牌組 ※簡評:雞肋 Dog Seems expensive for what it does. Auchenai is almost always better because of the body and there is no crazy combo you could use with this over Auchenai. Most of the healing spells are really cheap as is. In terms of Circle of Healing synergy, one would ever need to circle on turn two to use this card on curve. Off curve, Embrace the Shadows provides no advantage aside from not leaving the Auchenai on the board in case you want to heal next turn. 不怎麼划算 奧奇奈在多數情況下比較好因為多一個生物來佔場 而且看不出有什麼瘋狂的Combo可以讓這張卡取代奧奇奈 多數的治療法術也都很便宜 就算從治療之環Combo的機制來看 你也不會有什麼機會在需要在T2的時候準時出到這張卡 至於T2之後 這張卡跟多一個生物佔場的奧奇奈根本沒得比 除非你下回合需要補血 That upside is negligible, however, since most of the time because getting board control is more important. 而且上面的但書其實可以無視 因為多數的時候取得場面的控制重要多了 ※簡評:不要為廢卡找出路 ======================================== 2費的治療之環清場嗎? 那我放奧奇奈不是差不多? 感覺是Combo用的卡 配費倫? -- A real man should keep doing workout for his whole life. -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 140.113.68.86 ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Hearthstone/M.1460479255.A.2FF.html ※ 編輯: zxf123 (140.113.68.86), 04/13/2016 00:44:59

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一回殺專用
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幾費你忘了打 2費
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LOL 不只連效果一樣 連台詞也直接偷來用XDD
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...這和暗影模式有得拼的爛...
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2+0全場4費 烈焰風暴表示:
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這張我覺得用途挺多的 只是虧卡
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已經有張卡叫做奧奇奈... 可是這張的低費也許有開發
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難用
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字數
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......那不如用奧奇奈 要抽排抽到可以一回殺很難
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空間,比如配合治療之環或費倫之類的
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不是有奧其奈了
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不過肉身殭屍不能用了
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AMAZ正在邊打競技場邊講這張卡
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跟奧奇奈比差太多 等於奧奇奈是2費叫3/5呢
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這張真的就是 微妙
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快攻多的話可以考慮放
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是戰吼就不錯 法術的話滿難用的...
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另一個功能就是 跟聖騎打時放思想竊取偷他的禁咒
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我覺得很強阿,很有彈性,有時候奧齊奈就是沒辦法
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放出去
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AMAZ剛說了,也許可能有用就是配合大帝跟廢輪
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然後轟他16點
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可以跟快速治療一起用,控制不看好
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這張是玩一回殺的 搭配費倫 可惜的是沒殭屍應該不
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夠傷害
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玩藍龍牧這張還有用啦 降費後20點爆發
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來源網站上就有很多玩家的評價
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大部分認為主用途是費倫一回殺
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快速治療
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有兩個認為 有可能作為第三張奧奇奈來放一張
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可能可以試試OTK牌組 不過老問題牧師濾牌慢
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畢竟T2就能AE還是有差
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不錯玩的卡,現在冰牧費輪+奧奇奈後還要降太多的卡
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沒啥用
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,這張是你不需要那隻3/5站場的好選擇
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想讓這張有用? 很簡單 奧奇奈改成衝鋒生物+1攻
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還有 225 則推文
還有 1 段內文
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奧奇奈:哪裡來的垃圾
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尤格薩倫:擁抱黑暗+生命之樹 收工囉
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治療法術不夠多導致這張沒什麼屁用
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現在爐石版是怎樣 討論用法都不行
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覺得這張有開發的潛力
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推 redjelly : 尤格薩倫:擁抱黑暗+生命之樹 收
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工囉
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未來一定有這畫面出現在YouTube
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收頭用的 如果不是少一隻生物在場上差很多 即使低費
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如果bz不出天生技打頭30滴 怎麼出新卡都不對
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2費清場,有點好用呀~
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快攻牧 PogChamp
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藍龍牧
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整天奧奇奈的人一定都神抽環+奧 玩過牧師就知道
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你的奧跟環 有時候永生不相見 奧兩張沉海底 有多無
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助 這張一定放進牌組 因為它可以做出更多組合
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然後你的奧還可以單下搭配 補血4傷
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不用被綁在那邊奧環 奧環
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2費+0費環 兩張卡清四點 還可以啦 前中後都好用
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免得一直倒楣抽不到海底的奧奇奈
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又是一張要搭配才有用的卡 而牡師已經一拖拉庫這類
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卡型了 腦弱bz是當每個牡師都十張手牌開場 然後牌庫
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六十?
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看到現在 新卡真的給人一種銀白聯賽的感覺 XD
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不過也許是NAXX過強 退環境大家一起弱化也是回事
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NAXX太強了 現在看啥都會有點弱化感
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說真的環好用多了 多來幾張環的替代品才好弄combo
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環能做的combo有兩個 1是補牌2是掃場
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但是也只有兩張環能用 所以才需要放其他牌來補洞
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搞不懂為啥Bz永遠都是治療轉傷害; 治療/傷害互換更
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有意思吧
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合作廠商有時哪會懂這些呢
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就像有些人賽評講的爛,還是常常被找上去講呢
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有時候是找不到人才只能找備案呢
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至少給個11小怪吧
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強度大輸奧奇奈 看看靈活度能不能補上....
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突然想到 如果這張是永久治療轉傷害呢?
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不怎麼樣 因為沒有如果
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暗影形態永久,可是只影響天生技
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