Re: [情報] 微軟將提供數位自理退貨服務

看板XBOX作者 (COCO)時間8年前 (2017/04/13 09:13), 8年前編輯推噓15(15041)
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下面是預覽計畫裡面的詳細介紹 You’ve spoken; we’ve listened. In support of offering gamers the freedom of choice, we’re making changes to the Microsoft Store purchase experience by offering customers a simple way to instantly return digital products like games and apps through account.microsoft.com. When a game or app leaves you wanting more, we're here to help. Self-service refunds on Xbox One and Windows 10 provide a quick, simple way of returning a digital product. To request a self-service refund: 退款步驟 1. Navigate to account.microsoft.com and sign-in. 在上面網頁登入帳號 2. From the top menu bar, select Payment & billing > Order history. 從最上面選單找到付費選項&帳單>購買歷史 3. Navigate to a purchased game or app, and select Request a refund. 選擇一個遊戲或APP,然後選擇退款 Please note the below conditions for requesting a self-service refund: 退款注意事項 ‧ Games and apps are eligible for self-service refunds within 14 days of purchase if you have less than 2 hours of play time across all accounts. 購買14天之內,使用不超過2小時(所有帳號加起來,合購的人要注意) ‧ DLC, season passes, and add-ons are not eligible for self-service refunds. DLC,季卡,擴充不能退款 ‧ The game or app must be downloaded and launched before requesting a self-service refund. 退款的遊戲或APP一定要下載,然後執行過 ‧ You must wait for at least 1 day after the game or app's release before requesting a self-service refund. 遊戲或APP上市之後的隔天,你才能退款 (上市之前隨時都可以無條件退) ‧ Certain Windows 10 apps may not be eligible for self-service refunds. 有些Win APP無法退款 ‧ Microsoft reserves the right to block access for users who abuse self-service refunds. 隨意玩弄退款機制,會被BAN 退款畫面 http://i.imgur.com/MuIb5X1.png
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04/13 09:15, , 1F
可是還是看不出來濫用的標準在哪@@
04/13 09:15, 1F

04/13 09:16, , 2F
大概是還不想公佈底線?
04/13 09:16, 2F

04/13 09:18, , 3F
譬如同一個遊戲買了又退買了又退
04/13 09:18, 3F

04/13 09:18, , 4F
或是買了10款遊戲退了10款 之類吧
04/13 09:18, 4F
※ 編輯: f16leon (1.163.165.142), 04/13/2017 09:18:41

04/13 09:18, , 5F
哈哈,我也才剛剛補充退款方式
04/13 09:18, 5F

04/13 09:22, , 6F
大概就每款都玩到快兩小時就退,跟Costco 一樣,你可以
04/13 09:22, 6F

04/13 09:22, , 7F
沒事退一堆,但之後就不讓你續卡
04/13 09:22, 7F

04/13 09:25, , 8F
濫用標準公佈出來 那有人就會去不超過那標準來「濫用」
04/13 09:25, 8F

04/13 11:02, , 9F
例如FF15衝主線20小時內一定可以過,我退款之後紀錄
04/13 11:02, 9F

04/13 11:02, , 10F
還是保留
04/13 11:02, 10F

04/13 11:03, , 11F
2 小時破關 youtube 頻道可以熱身了
04/13 11:03, 11F

04/13 11:03, , 12F
同一款買十次退十次就全破了@@
04/13 11:03, 12F

04/13 11:04, , 13F
越南大戰可以買了破一輪回味再秒退(X)
04/13 11:04, 13F

04/13 11:04, , 14F
同款應該頂多退兩次啦。不然就一直退就好了
04/13 11:04, 14F

04/13 11:05, , 15F
Cod TF BF這種戰役選簡單絕對6-7小時內可以破,退四
04/13 11:05, 15F

04/13 11:05, , 16F
次就能全破
04/13 11:05, 16F

04/13 11:06, , 17F
所以微軟真的不能把濫用定義的太明確XDD
04/13 11:06, 17F

04/13 11:12, , 18F
整合到帳戶中心的購買紀錄很方便,微軟的德政+1
04/13 11:12, 18F

04/13 13:15, , 19F
GamePASS先出再說啦
04/13 13:15, 19F

04/13 16:03, , 20F
Gamepass已經開放給ring3使用
04/13 16:03, 20F

04/13 16:03, , 21F
等ring4開放,就差不多要正式啟用了
04/13 16:03, 21F

04/13 20:50, , 22F
遊玩時數應該是累計的吧,沒有蠢到會讓能重複買退。ㄘ
04/13 20:50, 22F

04/13 20:50, , 23F
ㄨㄣㄉㄠ
04/13 20:50, 23F

04/13 20:51, , 24F
後面怎麼多了注音…
04/13 20:51, 24F

04/13 21:02, , 25F
所以我買了極限競速7俠盜獵車手6戰爭機器5地平線4,下
04/13 21:02, 25F

04/13 21:02, , 26F
載啟動後主機就一直離線,然後在pc上把遊戲全部退掉,
04/13 21:02, 26F

04/13 21:02, , 27F
就可以不花錢全部玩到破關了,太棒啦!!
04/13 21:02, 27F

04/13 23:36, , 28F
下次就被黑了吧
04/13 23:36, 28F

04/14 04:53, , 29F
只要設計成退費手續pending到下次主機連線檢查遊玩
04/14 04:53, 29F

04/14 04:53, , 30F
時間後才決定給不給退就好w
04/14 04:53, 30F

04/14 08:49, , 31F
整個退款機制理應設計成樓上所描述的
04/14 08:49, 31F

04/14 08:50, , 32F
連到官網只是送出退款申請,但還沒完成退貨程序
04/14 08:50, 32F

04/14 08:51, , 33F
直到把主機上的DRM移除後,才算完成退貨,然後再退款
04/14 08:51, 33F

04/14 08:52, , 34F
當然,要試試漏洞也是可以啦
04/14 08:52, 34F

04/14 08:53, , 35F
假設有這個漏洞,你也用了這漏洞,連上一定會被偵測出來。
04/14 08:53, 35F

04/14 08:53, , 36F
得不償失。再說,這個漏洞也很好補。
04/14 08:53, 36F

04/14 10:15, , 37F
用免洗帳號在A主機上買遊戲啟動後便設定離線,然後在B
04/14 10:15, 37F

04/14 10:15, , 38F
主機上退掉。主帳號就可以在A主機上面玩,這樣呢?
04/14 10:15, 38F

04/14 10:16, , 39F
等你嘗試啊
04/14 10:16, 39F

04/14 10:16, , 40F
要永遠不連線實在太難了XD
04/14 10:16, 40F

04/14 10:18, , 41F
為了幾千塊的東西,冒著被微軟弄得風險
04/14 10:18, 41F

04/14 10:18, , 42F
但你的A主機沒辦法再載下一個遊戲啦
04/14 10:18, 42F

04/14 10:18, , 43F
另外微軟也可以BAN主機
04/14 10:18, 43F

04/14 10:35, , 44F
一次買5款,然後退5款,應該會被視為濫用的。等你嘗試回報
04/14 10:35, 44F

04/14 10:44, , 45F
他的意思好像是創很多個免洗帳號,都只買一次,開一
04/14 10:44, 45F

04/14 10:44, , 46F
次遊戲之後就退款
04/14 10:44, 46F

04/14 10:45, , 47F
但除非你有一堆卡,不然我猜會被微軟鎖卡XD
04/14 10:45, 47F

04/14 10:47, , 48F
就算你用免洗帳號混淆,可是信用卡都還是指向你
04/14 10:47, 48F

04/14 10:49, , 49F
我只是好奇微軟會怎麼擋,Ban主機似乎是個不錯的方式。
04/14 10:49, 49F

04/14 10:49, , 50F
但這樣以後買二手主機就有風險了
04/14 10:49, 50F

04/14 10:54, , 51F
話說回來,微軟要做成
04/14 10:54, 51F

04/14 10:55, , 52F
"每一台下載過的主機上的DRM都要註銷,才算完成退貨"
04/14 10:55, 52F

04/14 10:57, , 53F
有幾台主機有下載過,一定都有記錄的
04/14 10:57, 53F

04/14 10:58, , 54F
技術上不難,但玩家感受可能不好就是了
04/14 10:58, 54F

04/14 10:59, , 55F
之前的確有人退遊戲,可是主機沒刪除
04/14 10:59, 55F

04/14 10:59, , 56F
以為賺到了,繼續玩,然後帳號被BAN
04/14 10:59, 56F
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