[閒聊] WCA觀察秒數可能由15秒更動為10秒?!

看板Rubiks (魔術方塊)作者 (CF)時間16年前 (2010/04/07 23:22), 編輯推噓11(1105)
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官網的討論串 http://www.worldcubeassociation.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=838 我剛剛是在syu(WC09 4X4世界冠軍 Open沒去XD)的網誌發現的 先貼一下內文 Hi guys, I would like to reduce the inspection time from 15 seconds down to 10 seconds. The reason for this is that inspection often takes longer than the actual solve. People are making more effective use of inspection, and I do not like to go a situation where more parts of the solve are planned during inspection. Btw. for 2x2 we are already in a situation where people can plan more than half of the solve. I think there should always be an inspection time for normal solving, besides the unofficial No Inspection event. We need the inspection phase for some reasons: 1) making sure all faces are aligned correctly 2) making sure that the puzzle is in the 'correct' orientation 3) keeping overhead as small as possible: now we already have overhead for starting and stopping the timer. Without inspection, people need to uncover the puzzle, and there will be a surprise effect when people finally see the puzzle. A reasonable inspection time to solve these issues is 5 seconds. I propose 10 seconds now, because I think the step from 15 to 5 seconds is too large. I do not like the idea of having different inspection times per event. It is not necessary and it will be confusing for new competitors and judges. If we go to a 10 seconds inspection, then the judge could notify the competitor after 5 and 8 seconds. For the scared people: there is no need to invalidate past results that used 15 seconds inspection. Interested in your opinions on this subject. Have fun, Ron 內文的英文還算簡單 就不全部翻譯了 只講重點 Ron(應該是WCA的高階主管?) 說他認為應該要把觀察秒數從15秒改成10秒 當然依他的講法是說其實觀察應該只能給五秒 但是一下子從15秒改到5秒實在是差距太大 所以就先改到10秒 至於理由大概就是 1.目前解方塊秒數已經少於觀察秒數(我想應該主要是講3x3) 越來越多人利用多餘的觀察時間看接下來的步驟(X-Cross..etc?) 其中2x2的項目 在15秒內可以觀察到的步驟超過了實際解方塊時步驟的一半 (老實說有真的再練的話 看完是可能的XD) 2.觀察時間真正的用途應該是確認方塊是OK的(可解的意味 像是方向有無錯誤之類的) 和前面一小點步驟的觀察 而非讓你在腦中就解完方塊XD 大致就是這樣 當然下面有一堆討論串在爭辯中 目前結果好像還未確認? 不過我想更動的機率其實還蠻大的(想想遊戲王的禁卡表說改就改(誤) 影響最大的應該還是2x2和3x3了吧? BLD沒有觀察時間所以無所謂XD 大概就這樣 可能差不多要練"速觀察"了= = 以上 -- R. arioso : 對了小燒有在高中板發算命 cubefan : 是說 她到底是不是大學生= =? R. arioso : 高中生XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD R. arioso : 你怎麼被騙那麼久XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD cubefan : 囧 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 219.70.99.149

04/07 23:27, , 1F
我覺得都還好@@ 反正八秒內都看得玩
04/07 23:27, 1F

04/07 23:41, , 2F
根本就是要人乖乖看一個顏色的意思qq
04/07 23:41, 2F

04/07 23:42, , 3F
六底淚目嗎XD
04/07 23:42, 3F

04/07 23:44, , 4F
10秒在比賽裡會短到讓人很緊張(汗)
04/07 23:44, 4F

04/08 00:07, , 5F
這樣感覺很有趣耶....刺激^^
04/08 00:07, 5F

04/08 03:51, , 6F
所以影響最小的應該是大陸的盲解高手
04/08 03:51, 6F

04/08 03:51, , 7F
應該說完全沒影響
04/08 03:51, 7F

04/08 10:12, , 8F
我也沒影響0_0w
04/08 10:12, 8F

04/08 12:38, , 9F
2x2差很多 3x3倒是沒什麼差...
04/08 12:38, 9F

04/08 13:22, , 10F
Ron 是另一個 WCA 的創辦人 (另一個是Tyson)
04/08 13:22, 10F

04/08 19:27, , 11F
我只知道Tyson是創辦人而已XD
04/08 19:27, 11F

04/08 22:07, , 12F
聽起來不差
04/08 22:07, 12F

04/08 22:23, , 13F
Ron van Bruchem 和 Tyson Mao ?
04/08 22:23, 13F

04/09 12:17, , 14F
毛澤東?
04/09 12:17, 14F

04/11 03:47, , 15F
Ron是創辦人唷 歐洲的大賽都是他再辦的
04/11 03:47, 15F

04/11 03:47, , 16F
他人很好~ 我跟他還蠻熟的XDD 他送我一堆東西XDD
04/11 03:47, 16F
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