[討論] LCS事件給的代打判例

看板LoL (英雄聯盟)作者 (可憐的小孩)時間12年前 (2013/04/16 05:16), 編輯推噓17(17019)
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LCS事件給的代打判例 http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=3239350 --- Relevant Rules:(相關條例) The Summoner's Code establishes the standards of conduct for all League of Legends players and establishes the importance of exercising good sportsmanship and upholding principles of good behavior. 召喚師公約提到 競技要有運動家精神同時堅持良好行為風氣 The League of Legends Terms of Use prohibits players from sharing, transferring, selling or trading user accounts and/or login credentials. 使用者條款明文禁止 "分享、轉移、販賣或交易使用者帳號或登入權" Definition of Elo-Boosting:(衝分的定義) “Elo-boosting” is the repetitive and intentional act of an individual playing on someone else’s account (a “client”) for the purpose of artificially improving the client’s Elo rating. There is no minimum number of games required to be played, nor a minimum amount of Elo gain necessary to qualify as Elo-boosting. An attempt to boost Elo need not be successful in order to qualify as a rule violation. 大概就是故意人為以增進ELO為目的去玩其他人的帳號 小弟不是讀法律的 不太知道要怎麼翻得詳細 有興趣可以看原文 下面官方舉了兩個例子 The following also constitutes Elo-boosting: 以下狀況構成Elo-boosting Playing on a less-skilled player’s account while the less-skilled player accompanies you in duo-queue games. 玩較低技術玩家的帳號同時讓他跟你雙排(這大概是NA那時的判例狀況) The following does not constitute Elo-boosting: Permanently transferring a high-Elo account to a less-skilled player. This is illegal, but it’s in the nature of account-sharing and/or account-selling, not account-boosting. 永久地把高分帳號轉移給低分玩家 這是非法的 但屬於帳號分享/帳號買賣的範圍不屬於衝分 Analysis:(解析) Elo-boosting damages the interests of players of all skill levels because it cheats the internal matchmaking system of League of Legends. Boosting leads to less-skilled players confronting a far superior opponent (the booster) during the boost and also leads to less-skilled clients being placed onto higher-skilled teams after the boost has been completed. 異常的ELO爆衝會破壞所有階層玩家的遊戲體驗 因為他欺騙了英雄聯盟內部的配對系統 這會讓較低技術的玩家面對到實力遠超他們的對手(代打者) 同時也會讓較低技術的玩家在衝分完畢後配對到高技術玩家的隊伍內 (簡單說 你遇到對方代打超強很幹 你遇到隊友是被代打的根本沒實力也很幹) The investigation identified seven NA pro players and a team manager who played repeatedly on the accounts of their clients and boosted their Elo ratings. The most severe cases involved players boosting hundreds of games for a client; one player boosted a client a total of nearly 900 points. There is no way to know whether an Elo-booster performed a boost for money or other consideration, but all boosts are viewed as wrong. 我們無從得知這些人代打是為了錢還是什麼理由 但所有代打衝分的行為都被視為是錯的 --- 玩這個遊戲一定要辦帳號 當玩家辦了這個帳號一定會需要打個勾 ☑ 我遵守以上規定 之類的 (雖然有99%的玩家大概不會仔細看完) 這篇我想表達的是 使用人家的東西卻不願遵守人家的規矩 這件事根本不用考慮其合理性 更遑論牽扯到法律云云 附上原文 The Summoner's Code 召喚師公約(英文+中文) http://na.leagueoflegends.com/articles/The_Summoners_Code http://lol.garena.tw/forum/summoners-code.php Terms of Use 使用者條款(英文+中文) http://na.leagueoflegends.com/legal/termsofuse http://service.garena.tw/customer/contract.php -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 220.136.251.212

04/16 05:17, , 1F
...公告後 這樣這篇翻譯要刪嗎= =
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04/16 05:17, , 2F
拍拍拉
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04/16 05:17, , 3F
你辛苦了
04/16 05:17, 3F

04/16 05:18, , 4F
這篇感覺可以留吧 先推了..
04/16 05:18, 4F

04/16 05:18, , 5F
你被m了 你贏了XD
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04/16 05:18, , 6F
推這篇 理性解釋 可惜公告後....GG
04/16 05:18, 6F

04/16 05:19, , 7F
你被M 免驚
04/16 05:19, 7F

04/16 05:19, , 8F
謝謝您的翻譯
04/16 05:19, 8F

04/16 05:20, , 9F
推一個
04/16 05:20, 9F

04/16 05:20, , 10F
有M有推
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04/16 05:20, , 11F
美咪<3
04/16 05:20, 11F

04/16 05:22, , 12F
SAFE!
04/16 05:22, 12F

04/16 05:22, , 13F
所以有找到中文版的 Term of Use 嗎?
04/16 05:22, 13F

04/16 05:23, , 14F
如果沒有的話其實想建議官方放一下...XD
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04/16 05:23, , 15F
推 不過重點是Garena自己的規定
04/16 05:23, 15F

04/16 05:23, , 16F
因為召喚師公約寫得比較通俗也比較不正式
04/16 05:23, 16F

04/16 05:23, , 17F
使用者條款好像就是比較細的東西
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04/16 05:25, , 18F
公約沒有約束力 只是好看的...
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04/16 05:26, , 19F
一般來說 真正的違規罰則都在使用者條款裡
04/16 05:26, 19F

04/16 05:26, , 20F
不過官方常常拿來講XD 討論區吵架都會說請遵守這code
04/16 05:26, 20F

04/16 05:27, , 21F
不過那原文都是以Riot為出發點 Garena大概要生自己的
04/16 05:27, 21F

04/16 05:27, , 22F
這東西應該會有 所以我才在想是不是我沒找到
04/16 05:27, 22F

04/16 05:28, , 23F
啊 我去辦個帳號好了 通常會寫在辦帳號的頁面
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04/16 05:28, , 24F
沒錯 我想說的是 如果Garena確定要整肅代打 那得
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04/16 05:28, , 25F
先站得住腳才行 Riot是已經有詳細的使用者條款
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04/16 05:30, , 27F
大概只找得到這個
04/16 05:30, 27F

04/16 05:31, , 28F
http://tinyurl.com/bxcw7ps 停權管理規章
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04/16 05:31, , 29F
嗯那今天這件事 有了這個規章基本上就沒啥好討論了XD
04/16 05:31, 29F
※ 編輯: a2364983 來自: 220.136.251.212 (04/16 05:32)

04/16 07:40, , 30F
阿災從哪時開始奧客心態被當真理,總認為付錢的最大
04/16 07:40, 30F

04/16 08:40, , 31F
召喚師公約沒約束力?那被鎖帳號的事件都幻覺嗎??
04/16 08:40, 31F

04/16 09:37, , 32F
沒約束力? 現在就是行使約束力被工作室砲阿XD
04/16 09:37, 32F

04/16 10:05, , 33F
改成跟性交易一樣的標準好了,有收錢才犯法哦^.<
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04/16 10:31, , 34F
我玩完了不給錢 就不算嫖了喔
04/16 10:31, 34F

04/16 12:26, , 35F
小號更因為NG的隱藏elo而減少影響
04/16 12:26, 35F

04/16 14:43, , 36F
只好推無良室友的文
04/16 14:43, 36F
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