[閒聊] MagicAmy的drama (附註有更新與Amy回應)

看板Hearthstone (爐石戰記)作者 (真彦(まさひこ))時間11年前 (2015/02/19 03:48), 11年前編輯推噓110(110033)
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來源: http://ppt.cc/aSWc (reddit) Is magicamy real? from former teammate and a HS convict 真有MagicAmy這個人嗎? 這是一篇來自前隊友的質疑 So this is a great mystery for many of you all out there. It is still a mystery for me. Who really is magicamy? Is it a true woman in Korea who cares deeply about NA scene? Is it a trick to deceive people into thinking she's a girl so that she gets more attention than usual? We will never know for 100% but here is my conjecture. 這也許是你們心中的大疑問 然而對我而言也是如此: 到底MagicAmy是誰? 一個很關注NA爐石圈的韓國妹? 抑或是一個想藉著取信於他人自己的女性身分來得到更多關注的一場騙局? 我們不會知道真像 但以下是我的推測: Magicamy approached me saying she will be broadcasting hearthstone tournament for OGN. Of course that never happened. Then she asked me for my rogue deck. Being fellow Korean, I was inclined to give my deck to her. She spread the deck like cancer and hyped used it to achieve rank 1 and 3 on that specific season. MagicAmy之前告訴我她將會在OGN轉播爐石的比賽 當然 她從沒有做到 然後他從我那兒問到我的盜賊牌組 男生對這種要求怎麼能拒絕呢? 之後她把我的牌組病毒式的洩漏出去 Hyped在那個賽季爬到NA第1與第3 From this, I know she likes attention a lot. She approaches a lot of top hearthstone players on her own accord, and asks for their decks. 在那之後 我知道她喜歡受到注意 她接近那些高端玩家並得到他們的牌組 There are a couple of reasons why people believe this "magicamy" personality is a girl. First of all, she posts pics with paper saying "XXX fighting" or something along those lines. Just go to Kolento's stream and type /magicamy, you will see what I mean. Second, she or he voice chats with a lot of top players. I don't know if it's a real voice or fake changed female voice, but she does voice chat and play with others. Thirdly, she pretends like she likes you. Vast majority of top players know her and some have been tricked in some shape or form. 有幾個理由讓大家一直相信她真的是個妹子 第一 她常常Po出寫著XXX加油的照片 只要去Kolento的實況/magicamy就知道我在說啥 第二 她(或他)會和那些高手用通訊軟體聊天 我不確定那是真的聲音或假裝的就是 第三 她會假裝她好像煞到你(實況主) Other than this there are a lot more shady things going on with this "being." I'm calling it a being because I'm not sure if it's a real single identity or it's a interplay among many people on a single magicamy identity. I can list some of the shady things that this identity does. 除了這些把戲之外"這家伙"(this being)還有很多見不得人的事 我稱呼他為"這傢伙"是因為我不確定是一個人在使用MagicAmy這個身分 還是有一群人在扮演她 這些是關於這傢伙身分的疑點: First of all, being a top Korean player, it never participates in any of the Korean scene. There are a lot of LAN scene going on in Korea and it has never participated in any. I'm sure it gets encouraged to go but it will make any excuse not to go. 首先 身為一個韓國玩家 它卻從未進入韓國的爐石圈子 韓國有許多爐石的線下活動 但它不曾參加 我很確定對它而言會有許多誘因去參加 但它卻千方百計的推辭 Second, it will never stream. It will make up any excuses but to stream. It has been around 2 years that it said it will stream eventually. I doubt it will ever stream to be honest. 再者 它從不實況 它會有千百個不實況的理由 2年前我就聽到它說它會實況 我懷疑它將來也不可能會 Third, it screen shares with all its acquaintances whenever it plays online. It is pretty much a fact if you know her personally. HOw do you think it won an ESL? Not by herself, for sure. 又 它的遊戲畫面在線上賽是可以給其他人看到的 所以它是如何贏得ESL的? 當然不是靠"她"一個人 Lastly, its goal is in my opinion to exploit "online" based environment of HS in the America to earn as much cash as possible. There is reason why it never goes to Korean lans. My hypothesis is that it is not a female but a mix of people who consist of 1. woman showing in the pictures and 2. a decent Korean player. 最後 它的目的就是要透過"線上"的型式從NA爐石圈獲利 這也是它不參加韓國當地線下活動的原因 我的假設是MagicAmy是由 1.出現在畫面的妹子 和 2.韓國高端玩家 所組成的 It is willing to say so many nice things to you that you would think it has interest in you. But nope, it does that to everyone. It is goal-directed, it's either to steal the best decks, get help from you in HS, or something others. 它會裝的好像很哈你 但其實它對任何人都如此 它是有目的性的 不是得到你的牌組 就是想利用你在爐石圈的身分 再不然就是你的錢 I want to know if reynad actually met this being before recruiting it. Maybe he just recruited it with knowing all these facts because it is good for the team anyways. 我想知道Reynad在招募它之前有沒有見過它的廬山真面目 也許他是在知道這一切的情況下並基於對TempoStorm的利益而拉攏它入隊的也不一定 While this may not be the whole entire truth, following will likely happen. Magicamy will never ever stream. Magicamy will never ever appear on offline event, if she does, she will do substantially worse than what appears online. Magicamy will never ever do things she tells she will do eventually, such as making videos etc. 雖然我說的不一定是完整的事實 但我向你們保證以下幾點 1.MagicAmy絕對不會實況 2.MagicAmy不會參加任何線下賽 如果她真的去了 那她的表現一定會與線上賽時大相逕庭 3.MagicAmy不會履行承諾會在之後實踐的事 像是錄製影像之類的 Trust me on this one and I hope pros don't get tricked by this "being" and waste time and money. Good luck 請相信我 而且 我希望不要再有其他職業選手浪費時間或金錢在"這傢伙"身上了 估辣可 給end的人 這篇假設MagicAmy是由 1.出現在畫面的妹子 和 2.韓國高端玩家 所組成的 註:1.這篇原PO是前TeamMagicamy的隊員SPeCiaLiST 2.reddit對這件事的反應是: 爐石永遠是drama比遊戲本身有趣XD 3.MagicAmy宣布不參加ESL Finals https://twitter.com/ericfbrinkley/status/567946681515245569 4.原文因為有公布個資的疑慮違反reddit規定所以被刪除 下面關於加拿大男的資訊也是 5.懶人包(英文) http://ppt.cc/~~8m 有這篇drama跟其衍生八卦的整理 包括這篇的大綱 還有肉搜出加拿大男的始末 以及聲稱被MagicAmy詐騙的受害者的故事 甚至還有各實況主對這件事的看法XD 裡面有很多人名PTT不常出現(我也不熟) 就不詳述內容了 有興趣的自己看看吧 6.Amy在reddit的回應(內容很少) https://www.reddit.com/user/magicamy 不參加ESL Final : 簽證的問題 drama : 有人因為win trade被踢出戰隊而惱羞成怒 -- A real man should keep doing workout for his whole life. -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 36.224.199.77 ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Hearthstone/M.1424288917.A.3FB.html

02/19 03:55, , 1F
有掛有推
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02/19 03:55, , 2F
我怎麼記得amy之前有露臉過
02/19 03:55, 2F
有啊 ESL有露臉 但是你有看全文嗎? ......

02/19 03:56, , 3F
有掛欸 期待後續
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02/19 04:00, , 4F
有掛推
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02/19 04:07, , 5F
Wow 爐石的Drama真是越來越好看了
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02/19 04:09, , 6F
爐石永遠是drama XDDD
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02/19 04:10, , 7F
原來接近小熊是為了騙牌組 囧
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02/19 04:12, , 8F
不就是個gone girl嗎...........
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02/19 04:13, , 9F
wow 期待後續發展
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更新 MagicAmy的Twitter帳號好像被發現跟一個叫William Blaney的加拿大男性是分身 http://imgur.com/a/7fsWY (被刪掉了 QAO) 看起來像她男朋友耶......

02/19 04:17, , 10F
那天去參加比賽的不過是我父親的一個舊部...
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02/19 04:28, , 11F
毛毛der
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02/19 04:36, , 12F
Forsen剛才表示職業界普遍不相信她是真人
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02/19 04:37, , 13F
他舉了例子說他經常問後者能否skype通話,後者經常
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02/19 04:38, , 14F
用一些很蠢的理由拒絕,例如正在打天梯很忙等
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02/19 04:40, , 15F
說到Drama,前幾天還有PJSalt和Amaz間接嘴炮..
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02/19 05:12, , 16F
有掛 推
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02/19 05:19, , 17F
cool
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02/19 05:19, , 18F
所以比賽視訊就是一個妹子假裝認真嗎XDD
02/19 05:19, 18F
又有更新...... http://ppt.cc/TVTY 這人說 他跟Amy交往(只在網路上 遠距戀愛) 有聊過天 然後他花了$5,000在Amy身上 也就是Amy一堆金卡的來源 內文有資金來往的圖 然後 Amy跑去跟另一個實況主Jab廝混 還騙這人說她要買機票飛到他那同居 最後Amy找上Tarei 就是Blizzcon的NA代表之一 有加入Team MagicAmy 他覺得是Tarei在玩她的帳號 然後幫她打ESL 他認為MagicAmy就是一個女騙子在經營 跟加拿大人無關(已經分手) WOW~

02/19 05:32, , 19F
太抓了這個
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02/19 05:35, , 20F
(≧<>≦) 雞排、好香好好吃的雞排、加珍奶特價60喔
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02/19 05:42, , 21F
好像很精彩
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02/19 06:04, , 22F
太黑了的這世界
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02/19 06:08, , 23F
也許問西門可以求證,amy有說他認識西門
02/19 06:08, 23F
有興趣的可以去reddit看看 畢竟不少實況主都有帳號 很多爆掛

02/19 06:11, , 24F
這大概是玩爐石以來 發現最有趣的東西了
02/19 06:11, 24F
※ 編輯: zxf123 (36.224.222.24), 02/19/2015 06:14:25

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小熊表示:
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02/19 07:24, , 27F
小熊這蠢丁丁的牌組 應該沒有任何價值
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02/19 07:29, , 28F
羅傑:>_<
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02/19 07:30, , 29F
茸茸的
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02/19 07:32, , 30F
抓馬就算了 原文加後文都刪光光了才奇怪
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02/19 07:32, , 31F
爆料的都被敲門查水表了嗎....恐怖喔
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02/19 07:35, , 32F
w大的影片也太好笑
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02/19 07:36, , 33F
i feel like dr.boom,everybodys out to get me.
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02/19 07:42, , 34F
太有趣了!!!!!
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還有 73 則推文
還有 2 段內文
02/19 14:23, , 108F
求amaz pjsolt翻譯
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※ 編輯: zxf123 (36.224.222.24), 02/19/2015 14:32:17

02/19 14:33, , 109F
被AMY騙過的實況主JAB現在開台在講一些掛了
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02/19 14:39, , 110F
說到底都是為了%%%%%% 男性本色阿
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02/19 14:41, , 111F
期待Kripp做影片
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02/19 14:46, , 112F
小熊的牌組能拿出去用嗎
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※ 編輯: zxf123 (36.224.222.24), 02/19/2015 14:48:11

02/19 14:50, , 113F
amaz真的很假掰
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02/19 15:03, , 114F
身為一個通告藝人 假掰也是很合理的
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02/19 15:04, , 115F
Mr.Salt說别人假掰 sounds legit
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02/19 15:06, , 116F
amaz假掰+1
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02/19 15:13, , 117F
昨天看Neirea實況有人在po文談這件事
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02/19 15:16, , 118F
玩個爐石也能精蟲上腦 真有夠蠢
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02/19 15:20, , 119F
假裝煞到你,所以羅杰@益@
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02/19 15:20, , 120F
抓馬要暴惹
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02/19 15:31, , 121F
假掰與否不是重點阿 實況有趣就好
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02/19 15:39, , 122F
假掰一下玩遊戲又賺大錢 好假掰不假掰嗎?
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02/19 15:44, , 123F
個人是覺得Amaz還好,至少不會讓人感覺很討厭,反
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而覺得很有趣
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02/19 15:49, , 125F
能賺大錢假掰很好啊 觀眾看得爽就好
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02/19 15:56, , 126F
Amaz是有點假掰 不過有追他一開始的話
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02/19 15:56, , 127F
其實我覺得真的還好 還在可以接受的範圍拉XD
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02/19 15:58, , 128F
可以去Amaz youtube看他早期的影片 跟現在差滿多的
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02/19 15:58, , 129F
現在真的演很大 不過的確很有娛樂效果
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02/19 15:58, , 130F
能爽賺就好 他根本不想管這些沒掏錢的酸民吧
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02/19 16:02, , 131F
爆炸
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02/19 17:06, , 132F
怎麼不說演員都很假掰= =
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02/19 18:01, , 133F
每個人都在演 只是演的有沒有到位而已
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02/19 18:35, , 134F
修一下就能轉marvel板了
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02/19 18:38, , 135F
管他假掰不假掰 我看得爽就好
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02/19 18:39, , 136F
而且假掰綜藝可以讓你開台2萬多觀看人數阿
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02/19 18:59, , 137F
原來是爐石版喔 我還以為是八卦版哩
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02/19 19:20, , 138F
Amy被踢掉了
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02/19 20:50, , 139F
看到Reddit這個圖好好笑
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好險我只愛Nadia
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Nadia丹神超愛
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她也懂%%%%% XDD
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