[問題] My stupid move

看板Poker (撲克牌)作者 (Adam)時間18年前 (2007/07/28 14:47), 編輯推噓9(9031)
留言40則, 5人參與, 最新討論串1/1
http://www.pokerhand.org/?1308357 I am the Hero. Although losing about $45 on this hand, I would like to know how can I play it better. Any comment and instruction would be appreciated! Note: When Nebula99 reraised me on flop, I know I have to chase card to beat him. However I got lots of outs so I move. My thought is , if the turn is not what I need, I would be forced to fold cuz he must bet a big size. Probably it's a stupid thought, pls let me know how u see this hand. Thanks! -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 75.72.202.233

07/28 16:24, , 1F
我覺得沒什麼問題阿 flop上應該是coin flip左右
07/28 16:24, 1F

07/28 16:25, , 2F
如果你pre flop願意call raise, 那你flop semi bluff就應該是
07/28 16:25, 2F

07/28 16:25, , 3F
最好的選擇...單純call for draw很沒意義
07/28 16:25, 3F

07/28 16:26, , 4F
唯一該探討的是bet size, 這個看有沒有哪位版友要表達意見?
07/28 16:26, 4F

07/28 18:40, , 5F
我的小小見解~~10 J本來就是很好的牌 除非我是下盲注
07/28 18:40, 5F

07/28 18:42, , 6F
不然我不會跟10 J 即使是同花面~~
07/28 18:42, 6F

07/28 18:43, , 7F
有發top pair J 又有聽雙頭順的機會 但是還是很危險
07/28 18:43, 7F

07/28 18:44, , 8F
對方很有可能已經是over pair了~~他押多少 你就順順的跟
07/28 18:44, 8F

07/28 18:45, , 9F
就好了~~我是不會想再倒押他啦~~有贏就好輸了也沒輸多少
07/28 18:45, 9F

07/28 18:46, , 10F
回第一句~~"10 J本來就(不是)很好的牌"
07/28 18:46, 10F

07/28 18:47, , 11F
等到贏面真的很大~~你再rasie他就好了~~:)
07/28 18:47, 11F

07/28 18:47, , 12F
前天拿KK 我押8塊~~對方raise到17~~我跟了
07/28 18:47, 12F

07/28 18:48, , 13F
台面上發無關緊要的牌~~對方押23 我也call了
07/28 18:48, 13F

07/28 18:48, , 14F
第4張下來還是無關緊要的牌~~對方押45塊~~我fold掉了
07/28 18:48, 14F

07/28 18:49, , 15F
fold掉之前我打"I fold KK" 他後來現牌是AA
07/28 18:49, 15F

07/28 18:49, , 16F
我就說hard to fold~~該fold掉的還是要fold 不然輸更多
07/28 18:49, 16F

07/28 18:52, , 17F
以上是我的個人看法~~別打我@@
07/28 18:52, 17F

07/28 18:57, , 18F
我在想我都押8塊了~~flop還沒下來他又倒押我到17塊
07/28 18:57, 18F

07/28 18:58, , 19F
這時我心裡就有感覺他應該是AA了~~我第4張想看一下能不
07/28 18:58, 19F

07/28 18:58, , 20F
能hit到K 沒有就fold掉了
07/28 18:58, 20F

07/28 18:58, , 21F
還有一種~~若是我拿AA或KK 我押8塊~~有幾家跟
07/28 18:58, 21F

07/28 18:59, , 22F
前三張下來~~都中小牌~~我再押個14塊~~還是有人跟的話
07/28 18:59, 22F

07/28 18:59, , 23F
我就直覺我應該贏面不大了~~我還是會順順的再押14塊
07/28 18:59, 23F

07/28 19:00, , 24F
測試一下有沒有人hit到三條了~~若我押14塊有人開始倒押
07/28 19:00, 24F

07/28 19:00, , 25F
我就會fold掉了~~對方應該是hit到小小的三條了@@
07/28 19:00, 25F

07/28 19:17, , 26F
我最喜歡拿中小牌一對~~然後hit到三條 呵呵 AA不喜歡
07/28 19:17, 26F

07/28 20:03, , 27F
樓上的果然夠謹慎...TJs沒位置優勢我也不會玩..AA我還在學
07/28 20:03, 27F

07/28 20:04, , 28F
習怎麼fold...= =
07/28 20:04, 28F

07/29 01:53, , 29F
但在flop上 面對overpair有13個out耶...約50%吧
07/29 01:53, 29F

07/29 01:55, , 30F
沒有說要fold掉啊 就順順的跟就好了= =
07/29 01:55, 30F

07/29 04:06, , 31F
至flop對手bet,被check-raised還reraise,stack已花1/2
07/29 04:06, 31F

07/29 04:09, , 32F
reraise all-in他fold的最大可能性,是讓他認定你是set
07/29 04:09, 32F

07/29 04:12, , 33F
不過若對手have something,22.4 for 69,且已投入1/2stack
07/29 04:12, 33F

07/29 04:15, , 34F
不然他這牌不容易丟掉....,out of position,flop call
07/29 04:15, 34F

07/29 04:19, , 35F
reraise,就算turn no improve,check,對手fire all-in
07/29 04:19, 35F

07/29 04:20, , 36F
你還有river22.4 for 69的pot odds,選擇 call or not
07/29 04:20, 36F

07/29 04:29, , 37F
打錯,turn若對手fire,你有更多資訊和預想決定是否call
07/29 04:29, 37F

07/29 04:32, , 38F
想靠semi-bluff嚇跑對手的功效,由於他已pot-commited
07/29 04:32, 38F

07/29 04:35, , 39F
AA,KK難丟,QQ有inside str8,劣勢的2overcards也難fold
07/29 04:35, 39F

07/29 13:50, , 40F
感謝各位指教 小弟受益良多!
07/29 13:50, 40F
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