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[閒聊] 種族值改版

看板PokemonGO (寶可夢GO)作者 (泰山莖乘五)時間9年前 (2016/11/22 13:09), 9年前編輯推噓89(92推 3噓 47→)
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<Pokemon GO 11/22 種族值改版> A. 寶可夢後數字：IV(個體值)100 MaxCP(戰鬥力)/HP(血)/ATK(攻)/DEF(防)。 B. 寶可夢取樣： 取最終進化約2000以上。 C. 招式末*號： 無屬性加成。 #Normal 1. Snorlax卡比獸: 3112/320/180/180 > [3355]/320/190/190 (Buffed) Lick* / Zen Headbutt* + Hyper Beam / Body Slam @普通系一哥 2. Tauros肯泰羅: [2488]/150/198/197 (Buffed) Tackle + Earthquake* @爛技能？ 3. Kangaskhan袋龍: [2463]/210/181/165 (Buffed) Mud Slap* + Earthquake* @爛技能？ 4. Dodrio嘟嘟利(+Flying): [2138]/120/218/145 (Buffed) Feint Attack* / Steel Wing* + Drill Peck @等爆擊 5. Pidgeot比雕(+Flying): 2091/166/170/166 > [1994]/166/166/157 (Nerfed) Wing Attack + Hurricane @當作飛行系 6. Wigglytuff胖可丁(+Fairy): 2177/280/168/108 > [1906]/280/156/93 (Nerfed) Pound + Hyper Beam / Play Rough @血厚，技能優 #Fire 1. Flareon火精靈: 2643/130/238/178 > [2904]/130/246/204 (Buffed) Ember + Fire Blast / Flamethrower @血薄 2. Arcanine風速狗: 2983/180/230/180 > [2839]/180/227/166 (Nerfed) Fire Fang / Bite* + Fire Blast / Flamethrower @雙火最佳技能組 3. Charizard噴火龍(+Flying): 2602/156/212/182 > [2686]/156/223/176 (Buffed) Wing Attack + Fire Blast / Flamethrower @御三家唯一上修 4. Magmar鴨嘴火龍: [2254]/130/169/206 (Nerfed) Ember + Fire Blast / Flamethrower 5. Rapidash烈焰馬: [2252]/130/207/167 (Buffed) Ember + Fire Blast 6. Ninetales九尾: [2157]/146/149/204 (Nerfed) Ember + Fire Blast / Flamethrowe #Water 1. Gyarados暴鯉龍(+Flying): 2688/190/192/196 > [3281]/190/237/197 (Buffed) Bite*+ Hydro Pump @暴鯉龍飛天啦 2. Vaporeon水精靈: 2816/260/186/168 > [3157]/260/205/177 (Buffed) Water Gun + Hydro Pump / Aqua Tail @雙水最佳技能組 3. Lapras乘龍(+Ice): [2980]/260/186/190 (SAME) Frost Breath / Ice Shard + Blizzard / Ice Beam @您還是去當冰系吧 4. Kingler巨鉗蟹: [2694]/110/240/214 (Buffed) Metal Claw* + X-scissor* / Water Pulse @爛技能 5. Omastar多刺菊石獸(+Rock): [2685]/140/207/227 (Buffed) Water Gun + Hydro Pump / Rock Slide @雙水最佳技能組，抽到山崩防守佳 6. Kabutops鐮刀盔(+Rock): [2517]/120/220/203 (Buffed) Fury Cutter* / Mud Shot* + Stone Edge @您還是去當岩石系吧 7. Slowbro呆河馬(+Psychic): 2597/190/184/198 > [2482]/190/177/194 (Nerfed) Water Gun + Psychic @大招超能力系 8. Cloyster鐵甲貝(+Ice): 2052/100/196/196 > [2475]/100/186/323 (Buffed) Frost Breath / Ice Shard + Blizzard @您還是去當冰系吧 9. Poliwrath快泳蛙(+Fighting): 2505/180/180/202 > [2441]/180/182/187 (Nerfed) Bubble / Mud Shot * + Hydro Pump, Bubble + Submission @防守一樣硬嗎？ 10. Tentacruel毒刺水母(+Poison): [2374]/160/166/237 (Buffed) Poison Jab + Hydro Pump 11. Starmie寶石海星(+Psychic): [2303]/120/210/184 (Buffed) Water Gun + Hydro Pump / Psychic 12. Blastoise水箭龜: 2542/158/186/222 > [2291]/158/171/210 (Nerfed) Water Gun + Hydro Pump @可是龜龜，你原本就很廢了，幫QQ #Grass 1. Exeggutor椰蛋樹(+Phychic): 2955/190/232/164 > [2916]/190/233/158 (Nerfed) Zen Headbutt + Solar Beam / Psychic @草系一哥 2. Venusaur妙蛙花(+Poison): 2580/160/198/200 > [2568]/160/198/198 (Nerfed) Vine Whip + Solar Beam / Petal Blizzard @雙草最佳技能組，微變弱 3. Vileplume霸王花(+Poison): 2492/150/202/190 > [2367]/150/202/170 (Nerfed) Razor Leaf / Acid + Solar Beam 4. Victreebel大食花(+Poison): 2530/160/222/152 > [2268]/160/207/138 (Nerfed) Razor Leaf / Acid + Solar Beam 5. Tangela蔓藤怪: 2208/130/183/205 (Buffed) Vine Whip + Solar Beam @雙草最佳技能組，屬性純 #Electric 1. Jolteon雷精靈: 2140/130/192/174 > [2730]/130/232/201 (Buffed) Thunder Shock + Thunder / Thunderbolt @飛天，但血薄 2. Mageton三合一磁怪(+Steel): [2237]/100/223/182 (Buffed) Spark + Discharge / Flash Cannon @爛技能 3. Electabuzz電擊獸: 2119/130/198/160 > [2196]/130/198/173 (Buffed) Thunder Shock + Thunder / Thunderbolt 4. Raichu雷丘: 2028/120/200/154 > [2025]/120/193/165 (Nerfed) Spark / Thunder Shock + Thunder @可是雷丘，你原本就沒很強 #Ice 1. Lapras乘龍(+Water): 2980/260/186/190 (SAME) @冰系一哥，和他的最佳雙冰技能組 2. Jynx迷唇姐(+Psychic): 2512/130/223/182 (Buffed) Frost Breath + Psyshock / Ice Punch @爛招 3. Cloyster鐵甲貝(+Ice): 2052/100/196/196 > [2475]/100/186/323 (Buffed) Frost Breath / Ice Shard + Blizzard @冰系二哥，血薄 4. Dewgong白海獅(+Water): 2145/180/156/192 > 1894/180/139/184 （Nerfed) Frost Breath / Ice Shard + Blizzard @血厚 #Fighting 1. Machamp怪力: 2594/180/198/180 > [2889]/180/234/162 (Buffed) Karate Chop + Cross Chop @格鬥系一哥，技能也需要Buff… 2. Poliwrath快泳蛙(+Water): 2505/180/180/202 > [2441]/180/182/187 (Nerfed) Bubble / Mud Shot * + Hydro Pump, Bubble + Submission 3. Hitmonlee沙瓦郎: 2406/100/224/211 (Buffed) Rock Smash + Brick Break 4. Primeape火爆猴: 1864/130/178/150 > 2105/130/207/144 (Buffed) Low Kick + Cross Chop @雙格鬥最佳技能 5. Hitmonchan艾比郎: 2098/100/193/212 (Buffed) Rock Smash + Brick Break @為啥跟沙瓦郎差一截？ #Poison 1. Muk臭臭泥: 2602/210/180/188 > [2709]/210/190/184 (Buffed) Poison Jab + Gunk Shot / Sludge Wave @毒系一哥，雙毒最佳技能組 2. Gengar耿鬼(+Ghost): 2078/120/204/156 > [2619]/120/261/156 (Buffed) Shadow Claw + Sludge Bomb / Shadow Ball @耿鬼回來了！ 3. Venusaur妙蛙花(+Grass): 2580/160/198/200 > [2568]/160/198/198 (Nerfed) Vine Whip + Sludge Bomb < Vine Whip + Solar Beam / Petal Blizzard @您還是去當草系吧 4. Nidoking尼多王(+Ground): 2475/162/204/170 > [2386]/162/204/157 (Nerfed) Poison Jab + Sludge Wave < Poison Jab / Fury Cutter* + Earthquake @您還是去當地面系吧 5. Tentacruel毒刺水母(+Water): [2374]/160/166/237 (Buffed) Poison Jab + Sludge Wave < Poison Jab + Hydro Pump @您還是去當水系吧 6. Vileplume霸王花(+Grass): 2492/150/202/190 > [2367]/150/202/170 (Nerfed) Acid + Solar Beam @您還是去當草系吧 6. Nidoqueen尼多后(+Ground): 2485/180/184/190 > [2338]/180/180/174 (Nerfed) Poison Jab + Sludge Wave < Poison Jab / Bite* + Earthquake @您還是去當地面系吧 7. Victreebel大食花(+Poison): 2530/160/222/152 > [2268]/160/207/138 (Nerfed) Razor Leaf / Acid + Solar Beam @您還是去當草系吧 8. Weezing雙彈瓦斯: [2183]/130/174/221 Tackle + Sludge Bomb #Ground 1. Rhydon鐵甲暴龍(+Rock): 2243/210/166/160 > [3300]/210/222/206 (Buffed) Mud Slap + Earthquake / Stone Edge @飛天飛高高！神獸級種族值 2. Golem隆隆岩(+Rock): 2303/160/176/198 > [2916]/160/211/229 (Buffed) Mud Slap / Rock Throw + Earthquake / Stone Edge @唯一雙岩技 3. Nidoking尼多王(+Poison): 2475/162/204/170 > [2386]/162/204/157 (Nerfed) Poison Jab / Fury Cutter* + Earthquake 4. Nidoqueen尼多后(+Poison): 2485/180/184/190 > [2338]/180/180/174 (Nerfed) Poison Jab / Bite* + Earthquake 5. Sandslash穿山王: 1810/150/150/172 > 2328/150/182/202 (Buffed) Mud Shot + Earthquake @最佳雙地面技能 #Flying 1. Dragonite快龍(+Dragon): 3500/182/250/212 > [3581]/182/263/201 (Buffed) Dragon Breath + Dragon Claw / Dragon Pulse / Hyper Beam @您去當龍系吧 2. Gyarados暴鯉龍(+Water): 2688/190/192/196 > [3281]/190/237/197 (Buffed) Bite*+ Hydro Pump @您去當水系吧 3. Charizard噴火龍(+Fire): 2602/156/212/182 > [2686]/156/223/176 (Buffed) Wing Attack + Fire Blast / Flamethrower @您去當火系吧 4. Aerodactyl化石翼龍(+Rock): 2165/160/182/162 > [2608]/160/221/164 (Buffed) Bite*+ Hyper Beam* @爛技能？ 5. Scyther飛天螳螂(+Bug): [2464]/140/218/170 (Buffed) Fury Cutter + Bug Buzz @您去當蟲系吧 7. Dodrio嘟嘟利(+Normal): [2138]/120/218/145 (Buffed) Feint Attack* / Steel Wing* + Drill Peck @等爆擊 8. Pidgeot比雕(+Normal): 2091/166/170/166 > [1994]/166/166/157 (Nerfed) Wing Attack + Hurricane @雙飛行系最佳技能組 #Psychic 1. Exeggutor椰蛋樹(+Grass): 2955/190/232/164 > [2916]/190/233/158 (Nerfed) Zen Headbutt + Solar Beam / Psychic 2. Alakazam胡地: 1814/110/186/152> 2887/110/271/194 (Buffed) Psycho Cut +Psychic @胡地回來啦！雙超能力系最佳技能組 3. Jynx迷唇姐(+Ice): 2512/130/223/182 (Buffed) Frost Breath + Psyshock / Ice Punch @爛招 4. Slowbro呆河馬(+Water): 2597/190/184/198 > [2482]/190/177/194 (Nerfed) Water Gun + Psychic @水槍集氣快 5. Starmie寶石海星(+Water): [2303]/120/210/184 (Buffed) Water Gun + Hydro Pump / Psychic 6. Hypno素利柏: 2184/170/162/196 > 2048/170/144/215 (Nerfed) Zen Headbutt + Psychic #Bug 1. Pinsir大甲: 2121/130/184/186 > [2770]/130/238/197 (Buffed) Furry Cutter + X-scissor @10KM孵出大甲是不會難過的，真的不會QAQ 2. Scyther飛天螳螂(+Flying): [2464]/140/218/170 (Buffed) Fury Cutter + Bug Buzz #Rock 1. Rhydon鐵甲暴龍(+Ground): 2243/210/166/160 > [3300]/210/222/206 (Buffed) Mud Slap + Earthquake / Stone Edge @飛天飛高高！神獸級種族值 2. Golem隆隆岩(+Ground): 2303/160/176/198 > [2916]/160/211/229 (Buffed) Mud Slap / Rock Throw + Earthquake / Stone Edge @唯一雙岩技 3. Omastar多刺菊石獸(+Water): [2685]/140/207/227 (Buffed) Water Gun + Hydro Pump / Rock Slide 4. Aerodactyl化石翼龍(+Flying): 2165/160/182/162 > [2608]/160/221/164 (Buffed) Bite*+ Hyper Beam* @爛技能？ 5. Kabutops鐮刀盔(+Water): [2517]/120/220/203 (Buffed) Fury Cutter* / Mud Shot* + Stone Edge @最高DPS技能組 #Ghost 1. Gengar耿鬼(+Poison): 2078/120/204/156 > [2619]/120/261/156 (Buffed) Shadow Claw + Sludge Bomb / Shadow Ball @耿鬼回來了！ #Dragon 1. Dragonite快龍(+Flying): 3500/182/250/212 > [3581]/182/263/201 (Buffed) Dragon Breath + Dragon Claw / Dragon Pulse / Hyper Beam #Steel 1. Magneton三合一磁怪(+Electric): [2237]/100/223/182 (Buffed) Spark + Discharge / Flash Cannon #Fairy 1. Clefable皮可西: 2397/190/178/178 > 2353/190/178/171 (Nerfed) Pound + Moonblast 2. Mr. Mime吸盤魔偶(+Psychic): 1984/80/192/233 (Buffed) Zen Headbutt + Psychic @您還是去當超能力系吧 3. Wigglytuff胖可丁(+Normal): 2177/280/168/108 > [1906]/280/156/93 (Nerfed) Pound + Hyper Beam / Play Rough 個人想法： A. 過於強化：巨鉗蟹、迷唇姐、大甲、鐵甲犀牛 B. 過於弱化：水箭龜、白海獅、尼多王、尼多后、比雕、胖可丁 C. 到底是根據什麼調整的？快龍卡比越來越強？ -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 114.136.46.87 ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/PokemonGO/M.1479791361.A.D00.html ※ 編輯: hjhj2005 (114.136.46.87), 11/22/2016 13:11:06
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end 比較關心基礎值的改動 完全不想知道你有什麼寶貝
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你有看完內文嗎？我有講到我自己有什麼寶貝？
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11/22 13:15, , 3F
一樓XDDD
11/22 13:15, 3F
噓
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廢文
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11/22 13:17, , 5F
廢文？不然你去整理數據？我可不想像某些人只想無腦抓
11/22 13:17, 5F
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11/22 13:17, , 6F
怪弄一整隊別人說強的就強的
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11/22 13:17, , 7F
一樓UCCU
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11/22 13:17, , 8F
大甲勉強還有一點用 巨鉗蟹迷唇姐強化後還是不太有人會
11/22 13:17, 8F
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用 鐵甲種族值好可是屬性跟打點實在太差了...
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數據都不看每天感覺哪隻變強哪隻變弱有鳥用？
11/22 13:17, 10F
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11/22 13:17, , 11F
這篇很不錯吧 哪裡廢
11/22 13:17, 11F
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11/22 13:18, , 13F
這篇的個人想法 跟我一樣~"~
11/22 13:18, 13F
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推 整理辛苦了 某樓連內文都不看就在酸可悲
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11/22 13:19, , 15F
推 這篇很溫馨啦！不要這樣子
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11/22 13:19, , 17F
這篇不錯啊！
11/22 13:19, 17F
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11/22 13:19, , 18F
白海獅打錯了，變動後應該是Nerfed
11/22 13:19, 18F
※ 編輯: hjhj2005 (114.136.46.87), 11/22/2016 13:21:33
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11/22 13:21, , 19F
這篇整理很不錯 一樓哈哈
11/22 13:21, 19F
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11/22 13:21, , 20F
果然我的胖可丁CP變低不是錯覺,上週才湊到好技花一堆星
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已修正 感謝
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喜歡的各種nerf…
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塵昇級....太機車了啦!!!
11/22 13:21, 23F
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白海獅就算nerf還是冰系二哥 迷唇姐的技能 (挖鼻屎
11/22 13:22, 24F
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打臉推
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推整理，九尾就已經在不強了還被改弱嗚嗚，只好改農凱西
11/22 13:24, 27F
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白海獅被鐵甲貝超車了 替有練的QQ
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為何有些有寫3圍變化 有些不寫？
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有用推~
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有些本來跟本沒在注意XDD 修改了一下個人筆記
11/22 13:26, 31F
噓
11/22 13:26, , 32F
問題是你講的都是常識啊，這些都是google就有的東西
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我懶的跟樓上這種悲憤人嘴 呵呵
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可是鐵甲貝也真的血太薄了
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其實上面已經有全部改動比較了, yiping0210 那篇
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我覺得 說別人廢文前 先看一下內文吧
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你慢他一步
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水箭龜好慘, 傑尼龜數量少+難抓, 技能組也難抽, cp還被砍
11/22 13:29, 38F
還有 64 則推文
還有 1 段內文
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莫忘退貨哥 我們留點台階給他吧
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推 LUKE1104: 阿飛的小乘龍
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優文給推
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想看大大拉普拉斯練了幾隻 糖果多少 捕捉數量 蟹蟹大大
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我覺得他們一定是因人廢言XD
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隆隆可以撞快龍了
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保麗龍改強是應該的。
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說真的，御三家真山夠廢的，難抓、少、進化糖果多
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在以前黃版時明明就不錯啊
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御三家真的要改強才對，反觀伊布，好抓好進化，又常
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見又強
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現在看到御三家我基本上都無視了，浪費球
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伊布才是真御三家
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這篇整理的很好啊 還有附評價
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辛苦整理了
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剛剛去朝聖那篇文章了！
11/22 15:19, 118F
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御三家可愛呀，不抓嗎
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一樓是在共三小?
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剛剛也找到那篇了，個人覺得孵5抓3跟糖果數還滿合理的
11/22 15:34, 121F
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推整理 這篇很不錯啊
11/22 15:41, 122F
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這篇很棒欸一目了然
11/22 15:45, 123F
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推整理
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跪求超會孵乘龍文連結m(._.)m
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優文 一樓檢討檢討
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推整理（有上色更好）！一樓該不會是另類幽默吧？
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水系沒提到哥達鴨，刺海龍(還是算冰系？)
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一樓安安有事嗎？
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11/22 17:00, , 130F
推
11/22 17:00, 130F
推
11/22 17:10, , 131F
推
11/22 17:10, 131F
推
11/22 17:13, , 132F
問題感想跟原poㄧ樣
11/22 17:13, 132F
推
11/22 17:34, , 133F
推...感謝整理
11/22 17:34, 133F
推
11/22 18:10, , 134F
推 一樓在幹嘛
11/22 18:10, 134F
推
11/22 18:34, , 135F
推一個
11/22 18:34, 135F
→
11/22 19:16, , 136F
都補推這麼久了 還在有事嗎的有事嗎XD
11/22 19:16, 136F
推
11/22 20:02, , 137F
推 實用整理 謝謝
11/22 20:02, 137F
推
11/22 22:20, , 138F
推實用整理
11/22 22:20, 138F
推
11/22 22:27, , 139F
推
11/22 22:27, 139F
推
11/22 23:36, , 140F
推實用文
11/22 23:36, 140F
推
11/23 09:16, , 141F
推
11/23 09:16, 141F
推
11/23 13:51, , 142F
推用心整理
11/23 13:51, 142F
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