[閒聊] 時代的眼淚 - LoL十大老舊機制

看板LoL (英雄聯盟)作者 (影紫‧歐人)時間12年前 (2012/02/23 00:24), 編輯推噓122(1220120)
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Reddit討論串 http://goo.gl/pOSrK 原文 http://goo.gl/Jsrck == A Trip Down Memory Lane – 10 Old Mechanics From League Of Legends 時代的眼淚 - 英雄聯盟十大老舊機制 Not all of us can say we played this game from beta (me being one such person). In fact, the majority of the games growth didn't come about until last year. Because of this, many people never got the chance to enjoy some of the broken mechanics that made this game one of the most raged at titles of all time. Let's take that trip down memory lane, and check out 10 old mechanics from League of Legends! 並非所有人都是從Beta時代加入這個遊戲(我就是其中一個),事實上,這個遊戲最主要 的成長與發展大概是在去年完成的,因此,許多人從來沒有體驗過早期那些超爛的遊戲 機制,這些破爛機制讓這遊戲一度成為最惱人且令人詬病的冠軍。讓我們隨著時代的眼 淚,來回顧英雄聯盟十大老舊機制吧! 10.Gangplank's Deny Mechanic 第十名 - 剛普朗克的Deny If you ever played DotA then you know exactly what it is to deny your opponent. For those of you who haven't played DotA, denying is killing your own creeps before the enemy hero can last hit it for gold. For some odd reason, only one champion in LoL had the power to deny. And that champion was Gangplank with his Raise Moral ability (E). In order to use the ability you were required to kill an allied minion or summoned pet. Thus, Denyplank was born. By killing your own minions you deny your lane opponent gold and experience. Check out the video below, and take notes on how to be an asshole … 如果你是DotA老手,你大概很清楚什麼是Deny你的對手。Deny就是在敵人要尾刀賺錢的 瞬間,你就先一步把自己的小兵給宰了。由於一些奇怪的因素,LoL裡面只有一個英雄能 夠Deny,他就是剛普朗克,剛普朗克的E。為了要使用E這個技能,你必須要殺掉一個自己 的小兵或是召喚寵,因此Deny朗克就這樣誕生了,藉由幹掉自己的小兵來阻絕敵人尾刀賺 錢和經驗。看看下面的影片,看看如何當一個混帳... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrivQJBLWws
(Deny不知道該怎麼翻,應該是TK的意思吧?影片那GP根本流氓,吃隊友...) 9.Sunfire Cape Stacking 第九名 - 疊日炎斗篷 Yes, they stacked… This was a sad time for League of Legends. It was not uncommon to see half of the players in a game stacking Sunfire Capes. It seemed like this problem went on forever too. Imagine a stealth champ running circles around your team with several Sunfire Capes burning down your squishies… Actually, screw imaging that, just watch the video below. 對,可以疊... 這是英雄聯盟一段悲傷的往事,在遊戲中常常可以看到超過一半的玩家都 在疊日炎斗篷,這個BUG看起來像是永遠不會被改掉一樣,想像一下,一個穿了一堆斗篷 的隱形角偷偷跑到你隊伍裡面繞個幾圈,然後你們就被燒爆了... 呃,別想像了,我們直 接來看下面的影片吧... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVAi08_G0Tc
(EVE OP = =) 8.Morgana' Black Shield OP 第八名 - 魔甘娜的OP盾 One of the most frustrating things in this game is landing a perfectly placed skill shot just to have Morg shield your target moments before the ability hits. Imagine if her shield removed all debuffs in addition to making the target spell immune. Well, it did. Pop that shield on your stunned carry, and now that carry is cleansed of cc and has spell immunity. Morg was a beast of an AP carry and had arguably the best support spell in the game. Black Shield has since been nerfed to it's current rendition. Morgana is still continually a ban/pick in solo queue. 遊戲中其中一個最讓人感到洩氣的事情就是在技能K到你之前讓魔甘娜放盾在你身上,想 像一下魔甘娜的盾可以移除所有負面效果(Debuff)並免疫所有技能,呃,它真的可以,在 被暈的Carry上放盾,然後那隻Carry就沒事了而且還抗所有技能,魔甘娜可以說是一個有 全遊戲最強輔助技能的AP角。那個盾後來就被Nerf到現在這樣,但魔甘娜還是一樣人人搶 著Ban。 http://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/80450F/wgrd.com/files/2012/02/black-shield.jpg
(OP盾到現在還是OP) 7.That Sure Is A Lot Of Bush 第七名 - 草叢有夠多 Early on in League of Legends, the brush layout was a little different. And by different, I mean much more prevalent. And by much more prevalent, I mean friggin insane. Just look at the brush layout! 早期的英雄聯盟,戰場草叢的配置跟現在有點不太一樣,不太一樣是指更加茂盛,而更加 茂盛是指他媽的實在有夠多,你看看這草叢這樣長對嗎! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zX7ThrLYng
(乾,這草叢是殺小,長這樣插眼是要插給鬼看嗎...) 6.Ezreal's OP Heal 第六名 - 伊澤瑞爾的OP治療 Recently Morello made the statement: “that was the day Riot games learned the cost of putting out-of-class abilities … on classes that didn't have access to it.” That was referring to Sona's AOE CC ultimate. But I think they learned that lesson when they released Ezreal. His entire kit was full of out-of-class abilities at the time. Ezreal was a true jack of all trades. He had a heal on an AD carry and he could also be played as a hybrid or straight AP. 最近Morello表示:「Riot終於瞭解,我們在某些類型角色上放了錯誤類型的技能。」 這是在說Sona的AOE CC大絕,不過我認為他們早在Ezreal剛出來的時候就已經學到這教訓 ,伊澤瑞爾擁有一整組跟他定位不相配的技能組,伊澤瑞爾曾經是個全能型的英雄,他是 一個能夠治療的AD Carry而且還可以改當AP角或是AD/AP混搭角。 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIUF9jJoLsA
(SUP+AD+AP+AD/AP ?!XDDDD) 5.Innervating Locket 第五名 - Innervating Locket If you didn't have a chance to experience this item, then you never had a chance to experience an invincible Udyr. Every ability you used caused locket to proc for a heal and some mana restoration. After several nerfs the item was eventually removed. The following music video was made with Udyr as a result… 如果你沒有機會體驗到這個物品,你大概也沒體驗過超級無敵兒(烏迪爾Udyr),你用的任 何技能都會觸發Innervating Locket的回血和回魔,經過多次的Nerf後,這物品最後還是 被移除了,以下的音樂影片是烏迪爾做的... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dn7pceX_Mnk
(影片中的烏迪爾好可憐的感覺...可是這物品實在有夠OP...) 4.Twisted Fate – Really Broken 第四名 - 逆命真的壞掉了 WTF!? When did this ever seem like it was a good idea? Let's take a summoner spell, buff it, then make it an ability that can be learned at level 1. Real terror TF from beta… 殺小?!這玩意什麼時候看起來是個好主意了?來,我們隨便挑一個召喚師技能,Buff一下 ,然後讓它變成一個Lv1就可以學得技能,這就是Beta逆命的恐怖... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gM_m6V40UsM
(這會不會太扯?以前逆命E是全地圖傳送???) 3.Mana Burn 第三名 - 燃燒法力 Yes, at one time there was such a thing as mana burn in League of Legends. Wit's End was/is an anti-AP item, but the mechanics of the weapon have changed drastically in recent times. Currently Wit's End stacks MR the more you attack. Originally the item burned off 40 mana per attack on the target. In theory you would target a mage and burn off their mana pool. In practice the Wit's End would be used to burn off all of the tank's mana pool since tanks don't stack mana. Needless to say, this mechanic was found to be a little OP. The item was originally intended to be anti-mage, but it instead was used to starve tanks of mana. Riot decided that this needed to end, and then the new Wit's End was born. 是的,英雄聯盟曾經有過「燃燒法力」這種事,智慧末刃曾經是個反AP物品,不過這武器 的效果在最近已經被大幅的改變,現在的智慧末刃在你攻擊時會疊加魔防,最初一開始的 時候智慧末刃在攻擊的時候每打一下會燒掉敵方40法力,理論上你可以瞄準一個法師然後 燒乾他的魔力,事實上智慧末刃被拿來燒乾所有坦克的法力,因為一般坦克都不會出魔力 裝,所以不用說,這機制被發現有點OP,本來是設計來對抗法系角,結果卻被拿來吸乾坦 的魔力,Riot最後決定必須停止這種事,然後全新的智慧末刃就此誕生。 http://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/80450F/wgrd.com/files/2012/02/burn-copy.jpg
(燒坦克...真聰明lol) 2.Dat Flash 第二名 - 閃現 Dat flash… It's gone through several different renditions since the beginning of LoL. First it had a range of about half a screen and popped projectiles. Then they removed the projectile popping mechanic. And finally they nerfed the range to where it is now. Back in the day you used to be able to pull off flash combos like in the video below. 閃現...已經經歷了非常多的LoL世代,一開始閃現有將近半個螢幕這麼長的距離而且還可 以甩手,後來他們移除了甩手,最後他們Nerf了距離直到現在這樣,以前你可以用閃現 接一輪技像下面這影片這樣... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CuUdhp_x0I
(有夠遠...機器人也曾經這麼OP過= =) 1.Stacking Gold Per 10 Items 第一名 - 疊「每金10秒」跳錢裝 MEGA SUSTAIN SUPER BORING GOLD FARMING TOP LANES FTW!!! Watch the video below of Pros vs Riot. Look at the GP/10 items on the pros. That is why they made the passive unique. Although, I do miss multi-philo Poppy and HoG stacking J4. 究極持久超級無聊賺錢上路拯救世界!!!看看下面那段高玩對Riot的影片,看那些高手 出了一堆跳錢裝,這就是後來跳錢變成唯一被動的原因。 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6dOK5a8hsg
(每個人都出一堆跳錢啊= = 喔HSGG偷Riot的巴龍真好笑wwwww) == 哈哈哈 我是去年九月左右才加入LoL的 這些東西我全部沒看過 看看還真的挺有趣XD 真的 要平衡一個遊戲又要讓遊戲多元豐富又有趣真的很難啊...:P -- About me? Please visit: 關於我?我的網路電子名片 http://about.me/howar31 http://about.me/howar31 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 114.43.228.234

02/23 00:29, , 1F
好險我還玩過閃現
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還有啊 -100%CD 全球流TF潘森船長死歌有夠可怕=_=
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這十項全部都超扯...當初怎麼受得了...orz
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自從某個比賽,愛心udyr在會戰中能一直拍一直拍,拍
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02/23 00:30, , 5F
機器人那招好酷
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到隊友復活 繼續打下一個會戰...被取消就不意外了
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愛心盒在ionia vs noxus打完後就被移除了 bob無雙XD
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02/23 00:32, , 8F
好懷念以前的讀取畫面
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02/23 00:32, , 9F
以前有一個很恐怖的東西,移到地圖某處會聽到該處的
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02/23 00:32, , 10F
樓上機器人OP
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02/23 00:32, , 11F
音效,比如說巴龍沒眼,你點小地圖畫面移過去
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02/23 00:33, , 12F
就可以聽到打巴龍的聲音...
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02/23 00:33, , 13F
結果跑去看巴龍好端端站著沒人打嗎? 乾 好毛 (?)
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02/23 00:33, , 14F
未看先猜日炎神教 - 五火斗的浪漫
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02/23 00:33, , 15F
那些年 追著我們的日炎女孩
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02/23 00:33, , 16F
每秒十金...? 反了吧...........
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打反了...orz ※ 編輯: howar31 來自: 114.43.228.234 (02/23 00:35)

02/23 00:35, , 17F
我大概一年多前加入 那時候大概是OP EZ的時代...
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02/23 00:35, , 18F
Soraka開大埔1000呢?
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02/23 00:35, , 19F
還有智慧末刃 很遠的FLASH等 的存在吧
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02/23 00:36, , 20F
智慧末刃那時候其實很重要,沒這個裝沒辦法打大男
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02/23 00:36, , 21F
現在沒有還不是照打:P
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02/23 00:37, , 22F
4 7沒經歷過,好懷念愛心盒Sona
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02/23 00:37, , 23F
好像從來都沒有-100%cd這種事存在吧?那個-100%cd的
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02/23 00:37, , 24F
智慧末刃以前真的滿OP的 燒魔少的馬上就廢掉一隻
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02/23 00:37, , 25F
Teemo當初也是靠消魔刀稱霸上路
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1跟3還蠻靠近的XD
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02/23 00:37, , 27F
影片記得是別人用私服之類的東西做出來的
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02/23 00:37, , 28F
不過現在也不錯啦 有無恥魔抗
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02/23 00:37, , 29F
不過WITZ那時候仍然是冷門物品XD
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大男nerf很多了...
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02/23 00:37, , 31F
看到那草叢我笑了...真多
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02/23 00:38, , 32F
跳錢裝那個其實很近耶= = 根本不算懷舊吧...
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02/23 00:38, , 33F
那時wit's end是拿來反坦阿 ex: j4..
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哈哈哈哈 這真好玩
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02/23 00:38, , 35F
不過攻守一體的Zhonya Ring居然不再榜上XD
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大概是TRM的Teemo稱霸之後,消魔刀才火紅的
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那時候的智慧魔刃要攻速快的打才有用 燒一燒就乾了..
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02/23 00:39, , 38F
還有那個特效發動會吸血的燈籠
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還有 164 則推文
還有 2 段內文
02/23 05:28, , 203F
GP時代的眼淚阿 現在一直被NERF
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愛心盒之壞掉的bob udyr,從1:50開始,太扯 XDDDDDD
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deny好像叫做"反補"
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超懷念的!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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deny是否定的意思
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時代的眼淚竟然沒有 蠻王被沉默就不能開大絕!!! 囧
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02/23 08:03, , 210F
樓上還有 RYZE的W最早是指向技 不是指定技 悲劇 XD
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02/23 09:07, , 211F
居然沒有SIVIR的每個彈跳都吃綠手這件事情
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超懷念!! 以前中離以後在家魔防不會加到999 死歌放大
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02/23 09:08, , 213F
都會連中離在家溫泉的英雄一起幹掉 買疊書超爽的
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02/23 09:09, , 214F
而且看過bob那場後 馬上買了udyr XD
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02/23 09:19, , 215F
Deny有否定、阻絕的意思 我不會翻是想可能有專用術語
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02/23 09:21, , 216F
你可以引申括號為(抹殺) 否定他的存在這樣
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02/23 09:23, , 217F
好懷念火斗教 蓋倫必出
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以前GP真的壓爆對方兵線
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02/23 09:28, , 219F
eve有暈真的很強 會玩的很可怕 雖然還是很薄
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虎克就是疊一堆金幣刀出無盡
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02/23 09:32, , 221F
疊一堆錢刀出無盡是當時最爛的gp打法
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DENY exp
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02/23 09:51, , 223F
以前poppy出4賢者疊三相,配合天生技比小強還小強
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02/23 10:32, , 224F
可是那時候每個GP都這樣出
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02/23 10:32, , 225F
就我看到的幾十場都這樣
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02/23 10:48, , 226F
閃抓就是從WC3小遊戲移植過來的吧…可惜現在沒了XD
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第11名-以前LOL不是熱門版時是這樣,熱門版後變
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火斗神教才是最可怕的~ 鞋子+五斗GAYREN&10斗SHACO
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02/23 11:27, , 229F
除了草叢以外全部經歷過0.0
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第一名= =整隊都是SUP?Y
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全部都經歷過= =
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我真的對草叢很有興趣 那草叢看起來就超有趣~
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奶大粒這種加速角 EZ、蝦口這種跳躍角根本追不到吧XD
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好懷念 哈哈哈...
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02/23 14:44, , 235F
第一名那次大賽,是CLG的最最高峰,拿冠軍讓TSM吃土
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02/24 11:20, , 236F
第一名就是去年DreamHack的表演賽阿 跟Riot員工打
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03/01 09:08, , 237F
怎麼沒有WW大決定自己阿 後來才改成壓制解不掉
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03/03 10:32, , 238F
三小@@ 這些都改掉了喔???? 我看了這篇才知道
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03/03 10:32, , 239F
啥時改的阿...
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03/03 10:33, , 240F
跳錢和火甲還真的變UNIQUE 我昨天還買三跳錢
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別急著說這些設定扯 ...
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07/28 03:16, , 242F
當初玩家和riot反覆商討爭論了多少次才有這些變革啊~
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