[心得] Tempo Storm Meta Snapshot #12

看板Hearthstone (爐石戰記)作者 (小可憐)時間11年前 (2015/04/20 10:32), 編輯推噓14(14026)
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http://goo.gl/u4SDEU Meta Snapshot #12: The Dawn of Blackrock Mountain posted by @hyped Apr 19, 2015 這周沒有對戰優劣表 悲劇 Hey everyone, Hyped here back from Seatstory in Germany this time. As expected throughout the release of BRM this week’s meta can be defined as experimental. Imp Gang Boss is being jammed into many different Warlock decks to great and immediate success. Another great example of the experimental nature of this is meta can be seen in the earlys success of Grim Patron Warrior which, although released a week prior, understandably took longer to figure out. Gang Up/Fatigue Rogue still seems to need some time however. Lastly the end of the week is seeing some early experimentation with Dragon Paladin thanks to Dragon Consort’s release. 小鬼老大成功地加進各種術士牌組 術士排名上升 奴隸主戰士也比較完整了 倚多為勝疲勞賊則是還需要一點時間完善 這周的新牌組龍騎士則是還在實驗觀望中 Normally analyzing an experimentation-based meta wouldn’t be all that productive, but this week saw a major change that needs to be addressed. The rise of Zoo back into prominence is directly correlated with a drop in the almighty Druid. One of the few ways to punish Wild Growth is with a strong early curve. This shift is likely to persist as Druids don’t have easy ways of tuning their decks against Zoo and aren’t receiving any more tools to do so in the final 2 weeks of BRM. 本周meta有個明顯的變動 術士的興起直接地導致了德魯伊的殞落 原本幾乎沒什麼方法可以懲罰德魯伊用野性成長 而前期強力快速鋪場則是那少數方法之一 德魯伊對付這種zoo沒什麼太好的辦法可以調整 就算把接下來的兩周BRM牌算進去也難以改善 With Druids no longer dominating the meta last week saw a substantial increase in the amount of Warriors on ladder, though some of this is to be attributed to not just the lack of Druids but the introduction of Grim Patron. Additionally a rise in Zoo and a fall in Druid ushered Priest and Handlock back into the meta as they both lost a bad matchup and gained a favorable one. It’s hard to say which of these secondary trends will last, especially as we are likely to see lots of Mage, Shaman, and Rogue after Blackwing Lair is released. 德魯伊不再統治這個版本的meta 因此戰士在天梯開始持續增加 但不完全是因為德魯伊 另外還有奴隸主戰士的登場 另外 因為zoo的興起和德魯伊的殞落 也讓牧師和巨人術重回戰場 因為他們少了一個劣勢 又多了一個優勢組合 很難說這些二線主流牌有哪些會持續留著 特別是下周BRM我們很可能會看到大量法薩賊 Unfortunately there is no matchup table this week as it can be quite hard to track stats and gauge matchups when virtually every Warlock or Warrior you play is running a slightly different list, not to mention a new deck could have a bad matchup that is very easily accounted for once the deck gets to the stage of correcting for bad matchups. In the Tier list below all of the 1 & 2 tier decks have been updated and even some decks that have not changed too much such as Warrior, Druid, Face Hunter, and Oil Rogue feature different players’ variations which are not necessarily better or worse but may fit your personal play style better. Essentially, this week is all about trying new things and I tried to showcase some of the interesting variations currently on ladder. 不幸的是本周沒有對戰優劣表 因為目前不管各種戰士或術士的牌組都還沒有一定標準 每副都會有些微的不同 所以不好統計這些數據 更別提一副新牌抬頭之後還要面臨各種牌組跟職業上的針對 下列所有T1 T2牌組排名都有變化 有些牌組甚至沒什麼大改變(例如戰 德 臉獵 油賊) 這類牌組因為玩家的玩法不同 沒有一定誰優誰劣 最後 這周就是在各種測新東西 希望能為天梯帶來一些有趣的變化 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 218.161.50.21 ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Hearthstone/M.1429497175.A.A68.html

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這周用德就遇法,用zoo就遇牧,用巨就遇德
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04/20 11:00, , 3F
職業相剋是有多明顯 誰剋誰啊?
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04/20 11:01, , 4F
我法師對德很好打 對牧師就很無力就是ww
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04/20 11:02, , 5F
像獵人剋蝦滿就是最明顯的
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04/20 11:03, , 6F
剋也不用多 4/6開就可以算剋 但4也是勝率啊
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04/20 11:03, , 7F
也不是說被剋就不會贏XD
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04/20 11:04, , 8F
之前比賽19開的冰法都能贏防戰了
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04/20 11:04, , 9F
我剛想到的也是這個w
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04/20 11:05, , 10F
為什麼會相剋是蠻有趣的問題 跟職業特性有關吧w
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04/20 11:09, , 11F
這遊戲運氣就是一種實力
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04/20 11:09, , 12F
想玩的強 平常一定要多扶老婆婆過馬路
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04/20 11:11, , 13F
每天扶十個老婆婆 你眼裡就不會有職業相剋這種問題
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04/20 11:13, , 14F
賊打防戰應該試0.5:9.5吧
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04/20 11:16, , 15F
被德吼翻了最近
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04/20 11:17, , 16F
哪來那麼多老婆婆讓你扶XDD
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賊打戰並沒劣勢這麼大,應該37開而已吧
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04/20 11:23, , 18F
我覺得控制戰打T7應該有8:2開 戰士唯一大優對局
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04/20 11:24, , 19F
冰法表示
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04/20 11:25, , 20F
阿 對 冰法應該9:1 傷害完全不夠 戰士卡手T7還能贏
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04/20 11:36, , 21F
術>德>戰>賊 獵>薩 是這樣嗎?
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04/20 11:42, , 22F
與其說職業剋 說牌組剋還是比較準確些
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04/20 11:42, , 23F
會有職業剋的感覺很可能是該職業主流牌長得差不多XD
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04/20 11:44, , 24F
最近打起來 ZOO>咆嘯德>控制戰>刀油賊>新兵聖
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04/20 11:47, , 25F
法師跟獵人兩套主流都是看手順 比較沒優劣勢
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04/20 11:48, , 26F
薩滿跟牧師還是很少
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04/20 12:09, , 27F
三大速攻互相克制 ZOO術>機械法>T7獵
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04/20 12:20, , 28F
薩:我什麼時候才能起飛
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04/20 14:37, , 29F
沒有dude pal?
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04/20 15:12, , 30F
這裡新兵聖就是中速聖啊
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04/20 15:19, , 31F
我剛剛看他的中速聖沒放軍需官啊,還是我看錯了?
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04/20 15:40, , 32F
這版本他是放龍騎士
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04/20 15:41, , 33F
有放軍需的剩下20的那個控制聖
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04/20 15:42, , 34F
最近聖騎的變動蠻大的 所以看看就好
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04/21 02:26, , 35F
請問龍騎士是放夢境龍的牌組嗎?
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04/21 02:26, , 36F
請問優點是什麼 今天好像有遇到 不過被王牌射爆了
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04/21 02:33, , 37F
疑 好像是紅的才對 >_>
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04/21 04:37, , 38F
主要是綠龍有機會被龍之伴侶增益到T7可以下
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04/21 04:37, , 39F
沒硬解的話會滾雪球
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04/21 04:38, , 40F
至於紅龍...聖騎士比較少放
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