Re: [心得] Le Havre 單人solo至少可幾分?

看板BoardGame (桌遊 - Board Games)作者 (Kevin)時間15年前 (2009/06/16 15:14), 編輯推噓5(503)
留言8則, 4人參與, 最新討論串1/1
不使用任何特殊建物功能, 著眼點在於 煤能愈早出來愈好, 設法將 各式 鐵/Coke 能自產自足 打法 1. 市場 2. 不管食物, 但最好借據控制在 10 張左右 3. 快速將煤取出來 4. 用累積出來的木頭蓋木船 5. 累積大量的煤, 轉化成Coke 6. 取得大量的鐵, 轉化成鋼 7. 賣 Coke/鋼/牛/麵包 分數大約會在 400 上下 [2009/06/16, 14:45.16] Event logging started. [2009/06/16, 14:45.20] Login data saved: [Game=Le Havre] [Name=Meir] [2009/06/16, 14:45.23] Chat started... [2009/06/16, 14:45.23] Meir joined the game. [2009/06/16, 14:45.27] We will play the Long Game. [2009/06/16, 14:45.28] Game setup completed. [2009/06/16, 14:45.28] New supply chit revealed: Wood, Cattle [2009/06/16, 14:45.29] New goods supplied: Wood, Cattle [2009/06/16, 14:46.01] Meir takes 3 Wood. [2009/06/16, 14:46.03] New supply chit revealed: Wood, Franc [2009/06/16, 14:46.03] New goods supplied: Wood, Franc [2009/06/16, 14:46.11] Meir enters a building: Building Firm #1 [2009/06/16, 14:46.13] Meir builds for 2 Wood: Marketplace (6) [2009/06/16, 14:46.17] Meir buys for 4 Francs: Building Firm #1 (4) [2009/06/16, 14:46.20] New supply chit revealed: Fish, Clay [2009/06/16, 14:46.20] New goods supplied: Fish, Clay [2009/06/16, 14:46.32] Meir enters a building: Marketplace [2009/06/16, 14:47.01] Meir receives 1 Wood, 1 Clay and 1 Cattle. [2009/06/16, 14:47.04] New supply chit revealed: Fish, Grain [2009/06/16, 14:47.04] New goods supplied: Fish, Grain [2009/06/16, 14:47.06] Meir takes 2 Clay. [2009/06/16, 14:47.08] New supply chit revealed: Wood, Clay [2009/06/16, 14:47.08] New goods supplied: Wood, Clay [2009/06/16, 14:47.10] Meir enters a building: Building Firm #1 [2009/06/16, 14:47.14] Meir builds for 2 Clay: Bakehouse (8) [2009/06/16, 14:47.16] New supply chit revealed: Iron, Franc [2009/06/16, 14:47.16] New goods supplied: Iron, Franc [2009/06/16, 14:47.18] Meir enters a building: Marketplace [2009/06/16, 14:47.40] Meir receives 1 Iron, 1 Grain, 1 Cattle and 1 Coal. [2009/06/16, 14:47.43] New supply chit revealed: Wood, Fish, Interest [2009/06/16, 14:47.43] New goods supplied: Wood, Fish [2009/06/16, 14:47.49] Meir enters a building: Building Firm #1 [2009/06/16, 14:47.51] Meir builds for 2 Wood and 1 Clay: Smokehouse (6) [2009/06/16, 14:47.53] Round 1 is finished. [2009/06/16, 14:47.53] 5 Food are due at the end of the round. [2009/06/16, 14:47.53] Meir needs to pay 5 Food. [2009/06/16, 14:47.57] Meir takes 1 loan. [2009/06/16, 14:47.57] Meir discards 5 Francs. [2009/06/16, 14:47.57] A new ship enters the game: Wooden Ship (2) [2009/06/16, 14:47.57] The town constructs a new special building: Coal Trader (4) [2009/06/16, 14:47.57] Meir receives 1 Grain and 1 Cattle in the harvest. [2009/06/16, 14:47.57] New goods supplied: Wood, Cattle [2009/06/16, 14:48.02] Meir enters a building: Marketplace [2009/06/16, 14:48.15] Meir receives 1 Clay, 1 Iron, 1 Cattle and 1 Coal. [2009/06/16, 14:48.19] New goods supplied: Wood, Franc [2009/06/16, 14:48.23] Meir takes 5 Wood. [2009/06/16, 14:48.25] New goods supplied: Fish, Clay [2009/06/16, 14:48.28] Meir takes 2 Clay. [2009/06/16, 14:48.30] New goods supplied: Fish, Grain [2009/06/16, 14:48.44] Meir enters a building: Building Firm #1 [2009/06/16, 14:48.46] Meir builds for 1 Wood and 3 Clay: Colliery (10) [2009/06/16, 14:48.50] New goods supplied: Wood, Clay [2009/06/16, 14:48.53] Meir enters a building: Colliery [2009/06/16, 14:48.53] Meir receives 4 Coal. [2009/06/16, 14:48.56] New goods supplied: Iron, Franc [2009/06/16, 14:49.09] Meir enters a building: Marketplace [2009/06/16, 14:49.21] Meir receives 1 Wood, 1 Clay, 1 Iron and 1 Coal. [2009/06/16, 14:50.15] New goods supplied: Wood, Fish [2009/06/16, 14:50.18] Meir takes 1 loan. [2009/06/16, 14:50.19] Meir pays 1 Franc of interest. [2009/06/16, 14:50.25] Meir enters a building: Colliery [2009/06/16, 14:50.25] Meir receives 4 Coal. [2009/06/16, 14:50.29] Round 2 is finished. [2009/06/16, 14:50.29] 10 Food are due at the end of the round. [2009/06/16, 14:50.30] Meir needs to pay 10 Food. [2009/06/16, 14:50.34] Meir takes 2 loans. [2009/06/16, 14:50.35] Meir discards 10 Francs. [2009/06/16, 14:50.35] A new ship enters the game: Wooden Ship (4) [2009/06/16, 14:50.35] The town constructs a new standard building: Fishery (10) [2009/06/16, 14:50.35] Meir receives 1 Grain and 1 Cattle in the harvest. [2009/06/16, 14:50.35] New goods supplied: Wood, Cattle [2009/06/16, 14:50.54] Meir enters a building: Marketplace [2009/06/16, 14:51.04] Meir receives 1 Wood, 1 Iron, 1 Cattle and 1 Coal. [2009/06/16, 14:51.06] Meir swaps the two topmost special buildings. [2009/06/16, 14:51.07] New goods supplied: Wood, Franc [2009/06/16, 14:51.26] Meir takes 7 Francs. [2009/06/16, 14:51.33] Meir sells for 3 Francs: Smokehouse (6) [2009/06/16, 14:51.36] Meir buys for 10 Francs: Shipping Line (10) [2009/06/16, 14:51.39] New goods supplied: Fish, Clay [2009/06/16, 14:51.43] Meir enters a building: Colliery [2009/06/16, 14:51.44] Meir receives 4 Coal. [2009/06/16, 14:51.45] New goods supplied: Fish, Grain [2009/06/16, 14:52.08] Meir enters a building: Building Firm #1 [2009/06/16, 14:52.10] Meir builds for 1 Clay: Charcoal Kiln (8) [2009/06/16, 14:52.13] New goods supplied: Wood, Clay [2009/06/16, 14:52.33] Meir enters a building: Colliery [2009/06/16, 14:52.34] Meir receives 4 Coal. [2009/06/16, 14:52.35] New goods supplied: Iron, Franc [2009/06/16, 14:52.43] Meir takes 3 Clay. [2009/06/16, 14:52.46] New goods supplied: Wood, Fish [2009/06/16, 14:52.48] Meir pays 1 Franc of interest. [2009/06/16, 14:53.16] Meir enters a building: Building Firm #1 [2009/06/16, 14:53.19] Meir builds for 2 Wood, 2 Clay and 2 Iron: Wharf (14) [2009/06/16, 14:53.23] Meir sells for 7 Francs: Wharf (14) [2009/06/16, 14:53.26] Meir sells for 4 Francs: Charcoal Kiln (8) [2009/06/16, 14:53.28] Meir sells for 4 Francs: Bakehouse (8) [2009/06/16, 14:53.30] Meir sells for 3 Francs: Marketplace (6) [2009/06/16, 14:53.34] Meir buys for 18 Francs: Cokery (18) [2009/06/16, 14:53.37] Round 3 is finished. [2009/06/16, 14:53.38] 15 Food are due at the end of the round. [2009/06/16, 14:53.38] Meir needs to pay 15 Food. [2009/06/16, 14:53.42] Meir takes 4 loans. [2009/06/16, 14:53.43] Meir discards 15 Francs. [2009/06/16, 14:53.43] A new ship enters the game: Iron Ship (6) [2009/06/16, 14:53.44] The town constructs a new special building: Construction Site (0) [2009/06/16, 14:53.45] Meir receives 1 Grain and 1 Cattle in the harvest. [2009/06/16, 14:53.46] New goods supplied: Wood, Cattle [2009/06/16, 14:54.02] Meir enters a building: Colliery [2009/06/16, 14:54.03] Meir receives 4 Coal. [2009/06/16, 14:54.04] New goods supplied: Wood, Franc [2009/06/16, 14:54.22] Meir enters a building: Cokery [2009/06/16, 14:54.26] Meir loses 25 Coal. [2009/06/16, 14:54.26] Meir receives 25 Coke and 25 Francs. [2009/06/16, 14:54.30] New goods supplied: Fish, Clay [2009/06/16, 14:54.35] Meir buys for 20 Francs: Iron Ship (6) [2009/06/16, 14:54.37] Meir enters a building: Colliery [2009/06/16, 14:54.38] Meir receives 4 Coal. [2009/06/16, 14:54.39] New goods supplied: Fish, Grain [2009/06/16, 14:55.13] Meir takes 13 Fishes. [2009/06/16, 14:55.15] New goods supplied: Wood, Clay [2009/06/16, 14:55.17] Meir takes 9 Wood. [2009/06/16, 14:55.22] New goods supplied: Iron, Franc [2009/06/16, 14:55.29] Meir enters a building: Wharf [2009/06/16, 14:55.30] Meir pays the town 2 Fishes as entry fee. [2009/06/16, 14:55.35] Meir builds for 5 Wood and 1 Coal: Wooden Ship (4) [2009/06/16, 14:55.36] Meir pays the energy cost with 1 Coal. [2009/06/16, 14:55.38] New goods supplied: Wood, Fish [2009/06/16, 14:55.41] Meir pays 1 Franc of interest. [2009/06/16, 14:55.47] Meir enters a building: Colliery [2009/06/16, 14:55.47] Meir receives 4 Coal. [2009/06/16, 14:55.48] Round 4 is finished. [2009/06/16, 14:55.48] 20 Food are due at the end of the round. [2009/06/16, 14:55.48] Meir needs to pay 8 Food. [2009/06/16, 14:55.52] Meir discards 8 Fishes. [2009/06/16, 14:55.53] A new ship enters the game: Iron Ship (10) [2009/06/16, 14:55.53] The town constructs a new standard building: Abattoir (8) [2009/06/16, 14:55.54] Meir receives 1 Grain and 1 Cattle in the harvest. [2009/06/16, 14:55.54] New goods supplied: Wood, Cattle [2009/06/16, 14:56.09] Meir buys for 2 Francs: Clay Mound (2) [2009/06/16, 14:56.24] Meir enters a building: Wharf [2009/06/16, 14:56.25] Meir pays the town 2 Fishes as entry fee. [2009/06/16, 14:56.30] Meir builds for 5 Wood and 1 Coal: Wooden Ship (2) [2009/06/16, 14:56.31] Meir pays the energy cost with 1 Coal. [2009/06/16, 14:56.36] New goods supplied: Wood, Franc [2009/06/16, 14:56.38] Meir enters a building: Colliery [2009/06/16, 14:56.39] Meir receives 4 Coal. [2009/06/16, 14:56.40] New goods supplied: Fish, Clay [2009/06/16, 14:56.45] Meir enters a building: Shipping Line [2009/06/16, 14:56.54] Meir loses 8 Coke. [2009/06/16, 14:56.55] Meir receives 35 Francs. [2009/06/16, 14:56.55] Meir pays the energy cost with 1 Coke. [2009/06/16, 14:56.59] Meir buys for 20 Francs: Iron Ship (10) [2009/06/16, 14:57.03] New goods supplied: Fish, Grain [2009/06/16, 14:57.06] Meir enters a building: Colliery [2009/06/16, 14:57.07] Meir receives 4 Coal. [2009/06/16, 14:57.10] New goods supplied: Wood, Clay [2009/06/16, 14:57.13] Meir buys for 12 Francs: Iron Works (12) [2009/06/16, 14:57.19] Meir enters a building: Iron Works [2009/06/16, 14:57.22] Meir receives 3 Iron. [2009/06/16, 14:57.25] New goods supplied: Iron, Franc [2009/06/16, 14:57.26] Meir enters a building: Colliery [2009/06/16, 14:57.27] Meir receives 4 Coal. [2009/06/16, 14:57.28] New goods supplied: Wood, Fish [2009/06/16, 14:57.30] Meir pays 1 Franc of interest. [2009/06/16, 14:57.42] Meir enters a building: Iron Works [2009/06/16, 14:57.43] Meir receives 3 Iron. [2009/06/16, 14:57.47] Round 5 is finished. [2009/06/16, 14:57.47] 25 Food are due at the end of the round. [2009/06/16, 14:57.48] Meir needs to pay 1 Food. [2009/06/16, 14:57.51] Meir discards 1 Fish. [2009/06/16, 14:57.52] A new ship enters the game: Steel Ship (16) [2009/06/16, 14:57.53] The town constructs a new special building: Luxury Yacht (20) [2009/06/16, 14:57.54] Meir receives 1 Grain and 1 Cattle in the harvest. [2009/06/16, 14:57.56] New goods supplied: Wood, Cattle [2009/06/16, 14:57.57] Meir enters a building: Colliery [2009/06/16, 14:57.59] Meir receives 4 Coal. [2009/06/16, 14:57.59] New goods supplied: Wood, Franc [2009/06/16, 14:58.05] Meir enters a building: Iron Works [2009/06/16, 14:58.07] Meir receives 3 Iron. [2009/06/16, 14:58.16] New goods supplied: Fish, Clay [2009/06/16, 14:58.18] Meir enters a building: Colliery [2009/06/16, 14:58.19] Meir receives 4 Coal. [2009/06/16, 14:58.20] New goods supplied: Fish, Grain [2009/06/16, 14:58.23] Meir enters a building: Iron Works [2009/06/16, 14:58.27] Meir receives 3 Iron. [2009/06/16, 14:58.30] New goods supplied: Wood, Clay [2009/06/16, 14:58.33] Meir enters a building: Colliery [2009/06/16, 14:58.34] Meir receives 4 Coal. [2009/06/16, 14:58.36] New goods supplied: Iron, Franc [2009/06/16, 14:58.45] Meir enters a building: Cokery [2009/06/16, 14:58.49] Meir loses 30 Coal. [2009/06/16, 14:58.50] Meir receives 30 Coke and 30 Francs. [2009/06/16, 14:58.52] Meir buys for 30 Francs: Steel Ship (16) [2009/06/16, 14:58.55] New goods supplied: Wood, Fish [2009/06/16, 14:58.59] Meir pays 1 Franc of interest. [2009/06/16, 14:59.13] Meir enters a building: Iron Works [2009/06/16, 14:59.22] Meir loses 1 Coke. [2009/06/16, 14:59.23] Meir receives 4 Iron. [2009/06/16, 14:59.27] Round 6 is finished. [2009/06/16, 14:59.29] 30 Food are due at the end of the round. [2009/06/16, 14:59.30] Meir has enough food from ships. [2009/06/16, 14:59.32] A new ship enters the game: Steel Ship (20) [2009/06/16, 14:59.33] The town constructs a new standard building: Brickworks (14) [2009/06/16, 14:59.35] Meir receives 1 Grain and 1 Cattle in the harvest. [2009/06/16, 14:59.36] New goods supplied: Wood, Cattle [2009/06/16, 14:59.43] Meir takes 6 Iron. [2009/06/16, 14:59.45] New goods supplied: Wood, Franc [2009/06/16, 14:59.48] Meir enters a building: Shipping Line [2009/06/16, 15:00.06] Meir loses 16 Coke. [2009/06/16, 15:00.07] Meir receives 70 Francs. [2009/06/16, 15:00.08] Meir pays the energy cost with 2 Coke. [2009/06/16, 15:00.12] Meir buys for 22 Francs: Steel Mill (22) [2009/06/16, 15:00.20] Meir buys for 30 Francs: Steel Ship (20) [2009/06/16, 15:00.29] New goods supplied: Fish, Clay [2009/06/16, 15:00.46] Meir enters a building: Iron Works [2009/06/16, 15:00.48] Meir receives 3 Iron. [2009/06/16, 15:00.49] New goods supplied: Fish, Grain [2009/06/16, 15:01.02] Meir enters a building: Steel Mill [2009/06/16, 15:01.13] Meir loses 14 Coke and 27 Iron. [2009/06/16, 15:01.13] Meir receives 27 Steel. [2009/06/16, 15:01.18] New goods supplied: Wood, Clay [2009/06/16, 15:01.27] Meir enters a building: Shipping Line [2009/06/16, 15:01.36] Meir loses 18 Steel and 2 Coke. [2009/06/16, 15:01.37] Meir receives 144 Francs. [2009/06/16, 15:01.39] Meir pays the energy cost with 2 Coke. [2009/06/16, 15:01.46] Meir returns 8 loans. [2009/06/16, 15:01.50] New goods supplied: Iron, Franc [2009/06/16, 15:02.04] Meir buys for 8 Francs: Bakehouse (8) [2009/06/16, 15:02.11] Meir enters a building: Bakehouse [2009/06/16, 15:02.24] Meir loses 1 Coke and 7 Grain. [2009/06/16, 15:02.25] Meir receives 7 Breads and 3 Francs. [2009/06/16, 15:02.27] The active player undid their move! [2009/06/16, 15:02.28] New goods supplied: Iron, Franc [2009/06/16, 15:02.35] Meir buys for 8 Francs: Bakehouse (8) [2009/06/16, 15:02.39] Meir enters a building: Bakehouse [2009/06/16, 15:02.46] Meir loses 3 Wood and 6 Grain. [2009/06/16, 15:02.48] Meir receives 6 Breads and 3 Francs. [2009/06/16, 15:02.50] New goods supplied: Wood, Fish [2009/06/16, 15:02.53] Meir enters a building: Shipping Line [2009/06/16, 15:03.09] Meir loses 3 Cattle, 9 Steel, 6 Breads and 2 Coke. [2009/06/16, 15:03.10] Meir receives 99 Francs. [2009/06/16, 15:03.11] Meir pays the energy cost with 2 Coke. [2009/06/16, 15:03.13] Meir sells for 5 Francs: Shipping Line (10) [2009/06/16, 15:03.16] Round 7 is finished. [2009/06/16, 15:03.17] 35 Food are due at the end of the round. [2009/06/16, 15:03.19] Meir has enough food from ships. [2009/06/16, 15:03.21] A new ship enters the game: Luxury Liner (30) [2009/06/16, 15:03.23] The final action phase has begun! [2009/06/16, 15:03.31] Meir enters a building: Shipping Line [2009/06/16, 15:03.32] Meir pays the town 2 Francs as entry fee. [2009/06/16, 15:03.43] Meir loses 1 Grain, 7 Cattle and 12 Coke. [2009/06/16, 15:03.43] Meir receives 72 Francs. [2009/06/16, 15:03.44] Meir pays the energy cost with 2 Coke. [2009/06/16, 15:03.44] The game is over! Final scores: [2009/06/16, 15:03.45] 1. Meir (295|58|76+0|0) = 429 [2009/06/16, 15:03.55] Event loggin stopped. -- ___ _ BrettspielWelt Caylus Guild GuildMaster / __\__ _ _ _| |_ _ ___ A game by William Attia / / / _` | | | | | | | / __| Illustrations by Arnaud Demaegd / /__| (_| | |_| | | |_| \__ \ Graphic design by Cyril Demaegd \____/\__,_|\__, |_|\__,_|___/ (C) 2005 Ystari Games/Rio Grande Games |___/ Meir: 2er:1265/1169 3er:716/580 4er:134/91 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 61.222.163.35 ※ 編輯: Meir 來自: 61.222.163.35 (06/16 15:35)

06/16 17:17, , 1F
神手!
06/16 17:17, 1F

06/16 21:48, , 2F
不管食物這個方向看起來不錯
06/16 21:48, 2F

06/16 21:49, , 3F
蠻想知道如果是這個方向的話單人solo至少可幾分
06/16 21:49, 3F

06/16 22:08, , 4F
不過一考慮到有借據 再考慮至少的情況下就變得很複雜
06/16 22:08, 4F

06/17 00:39, , 5F
試了兩次 loan都只有到4張 236,257分
06/17 00:39, 5F

06/17 02:07, , 6F
經過反覆嘗試,顧及食物的話,我最好只能到三百五十幾
06/17 02:07, 6F

06/17 12:24, , 7F
剛隨便亂玩,不管食物的話很簡單就可以衝高...
06/17 12:24, 7F

06/17 12:25, , 8F
其實不要怕借據,多付一塊和利息並沒有那麼嚴重
06/17 12:25, 8F
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